Unpopular Opinions
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UPDATED: Monday, August 3, 2026 22:05
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Originally posted by Causal:
My unpopular Firefly opinions:
Jayne is a bad guy. Lovable, yes. Funny, yes. Great character, yes. But by the end of the second season, he would have turned on them. He wears hats people!
And the really unpopular opinion: The Message is the last episode of the series. Numbered last, filmed last, last in series continuity, but not aired last, and hence not the final note that Joss selected for Firefly's swan song. But in the world of the 'verse, last. So I watch it last, after OiS. I like it better that way, because it ends on a such a downer (also because it was supposed to come after Ois!).
I agree with you, actually.
Trash was also supposed to come after Objects in Space. I just found that out a little while ago. I think it's in the Volume Two Official Companion interview.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
A troll's hair is still pointy, even when it's wearing a hat.
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Ok, I don't have any unpopular opinions, I'm too afraid of conflict.
But, I'm intrigued about watching the eps in this order to see what I think about this idea now.
Hmmmm, different maybe is good.....
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Oooh everyone is so brave! Do you all feel better for getting that off your chests? (Strokes chin thoughtfully)
Seriously though, I couldn't stand the River and the Reaver scene in Serenity. She's drug backwards through the doorway by her feet. I'm a black belt and with that many (20 something?) Reavers there is no way she gets up. AND then the Damn door opens while she is standing there (looking very cool, I'll give you that). AND who the heck opened the door? It's only supposed to open from the outside and River's hands are full. What she does Telekinesis, too?
My vote is River should have died! And don't get me wrong, I think Summer is an awesome actress and I loved the fragile girl coming to life in the series but I loved the series BECAUSE it was about people. I didn't want Super girl.
There I have Jayne to protect me (or at least one of the Ninja Turtles) so no one can flame me too bad!
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My unpopular firefly opinion is about the BDM, I dislike the change to Simon Tam, he is a wuss, he never shot anyone, flinches in a fight and suddenly hes a one man Rambo assault team to break his sister out of a place we were told she was "carefully smuggled out of".
Didn't like the intro to the BDM because of this. Its so NOT Simon.
I too disliked the River battle scene but for different reasons after the initial attack. I too study martial arts and have for a long time and no way 20+ people you'd get out of that unless, you are Super Girl in a 'verse that don't have super heroes.
On the Kaylee thing I love Kaylee, love River and I am of the mindset River had a leaky brainpan, 'taint nothin in the Verse that can change that. (these are both not my own unpopular opinions but replies to previous unpopular opinions, apprently that was not crystal clear)
Oh and Jayne IS a bad guy, but he's a bad guy loyal to Mal and only to Mal. He betrayed Mal once and learned the hard way, I doubt he would do it again. though I 'spose he'd have to to keep the tensions up.
Alexis
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edited- to clarify that my statement about River's mind is not an unpopular opinion but a response to someone else's unpopular opinion.
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Seriously though, I couldn't stand the River and the Reaver scene in Serenity. She's drug backwards through the doorway by her feet. I'm a black belt and with that many (20 something?) Reavers there is no way she gets up. AND then the Damn door opens while she is standing there (looking very cool, I'll give you that). AND who the heck opened the door? It's only supposed to open from the outside and River's hands are full. What she does Telekinesis, too?
My vote is River should have died! And don't get me wrong, I think Summer is an awesome actress and I loved the fragile girl coming to life in the series but I loved the series BECAUSE it was about people. I didn't want Super girl.
Totally agree with this one...
I also found The Message to be an incredibly weak episode. It's the one episode I've never been able to watch twice.
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Originally posted by Cailieg:
I dislike the change to Simon Tam....
I too disliked the River battle scene....
2 very good points. 2 of the many many many flaws that are a disgrace to the best TV show ever made.
I'm thinking that next year's Get Smart movie will do the TV show much more justice than the BDM did to Firefly, based just off the fact that it's starring Steve Carell.
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Actually, the change in Simon from the series to the BDM was one of the things I LOVED in the movie. Mainly because Simon was the one character I identified with the most in the series. I saw myself in him. And so when you see yourself become a punching bag, it's a bit disheartening.
So seeing him be more assertive and actually push back when he's pushed was a great turn, IMHO. Simon doesn't get enough credit, I feel.
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Originally posted by Cailieg:
I too disliked the River battle scene but for different reasons after the initial attack. I too study martial arts and have for a long time and no way 20+ people you'd get out of that unless, you are Super Girl in a 'verse that don't have super heroes.
On the Kaylee thing I love Kaylee, love River and I am of the mindset River had a leaky brainpan, 'taint nothin in the Verse that can change that.
River pretty much is the 'Super Girl' of the 'verse, in which it is not clarified as to whether super heroes reside or not. But the whole point of that scene is that it is totally unrealistic and that River is supposed to be an exceptional fighter. River is sort of the exception in the 'verse, in that she doesn't seem to belong, and this is what makes her vital to the show.
The second comment isn't an unpopular opinion and I find that very annoying. It's probably what I feel most strongly on the show. River doesn't have a 'leaky brainpan' as such, but she does have a chaotic mind. None of the information of which River has ever conceived is not in her mind, and she knows that. Her 'lack of coherence' stems more from lack of conventionality than insanity. To me, this is possibly the biggest misconception of Firefly. Yeah, there ain't nothin in the verse that can change River's leaky brainban because simply it doesn't exist.
ReginaRoadie- Your views on River are so different to mine that they had no effect on me any way, so I decided not to argue...
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Yes we all know that the sun goes down and chaoses come again, melting, leaking who am I. I am sorry but I have to call that the babbling of a traumatized person with a, to quote Dr Mattius "fractured reality matrix", or someone who is slightly mental through damage to the brain and severe trauma.
Please don't make it a personal attack directed at me, you misread the intention of my statement. I was replying to someone who shared your unpopular opinion.
I was not stating an unpopular one of my own in that instance.
Alexis
shiny
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Browncoat through and through, more oft than not I have found myself adrift in the black, wondering if I had enough in me to keep flying.
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