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Sarah Connor Chronicles with Summer Glau

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Friday, June 1, 2007 8:14 PM


I love that Summer's character is named Cameron, and that there's a character named James Ellison!

Remember, James Cameron got sued by Harlan Ellison...

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http://www.nndb.com/people/385/000025310/

While Cameron was doing interviews to publicize The Terminator, he was asked what inspired the storyline, and he frequently mentioned two episodes of the original Outer Limits, "Demon with a Glass Hand" and "Soldier". What Cameron may not have noticed, but science-fiction author Harlan Ellison certainly did, was that Ellison had written both those episodes -- and their disparate plotlines, merged together, had a hell of a lot in common with the story Cameron had written. Ellison sued, and the case was quickly settled for an undisclosed amount and an amended "Acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" in the movie's credits.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:44 AM

Trailer looks good!

Definitely tuning in to watch!

The time line may be confusing...but Summer's in it

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:39 AM

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Originally posted by Summerfan:
I am very excited about this and summer will be in it as a terminater although they haven't said if she will be a good or bad terminater I don't care because we get to see summer on tv again.

Right now, you can see Summer on "The 4400"; just in case you didn't know.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:

I love that Summer's character is named Cameron, and that there's a character named James Ellison!

Remember, James Cameron got sued by Harlan Ellison...

Quote:

http://www.nndb.com/people/385/000025310/

While Cameron was doing interviews to publicize The Terminator, he was asked what inspired the storyline, and he frequently mentioned two episodes of the original Outer Limits, "Demon with a Glass Hand" and "Soldier". What Cameron may not have noticed, but science-fiction author Harlan Ellison certainly did, was that Ellison had written both those episodes -- and their disparate plotlines, merged together, had a hell of a lot in common with the story Cameron had written. Ellison sued, and the case was quickly settled for an undisclosed amount and an amended "Acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" in the movie's credits.



I'm a huge fan of the original Outer Limits and also love The Terminator. I didn't know that stuff about Ellison suing, but knowing what a complete tool Ellison has been all his life I am not surprised.

Frankly, I don't know why Cameron caved......those two OL episodes are VERY basic themes of sci-fi...certainly nothing Ellison invented...(a) time travel & (b) soldiers

There really is no connection between the three pieces of film :

Terminator was a machine
Soldier was a human
Soldier was accidentally sent into the past..but with no agenda..only to keep fighing " the enemy"...whereas Michael Biehn ( Reece ) had a mission. Now I will grant that Ellison had amazing vision and talent....Soldier episode accurately predicted many things....
Soldier's helmets wired for communication and orders, night vision, laser-guided weapons, laser weapons, and my favorite...self-igniting cigarettes..yep that soldier Quarlo Koprigney was quite an amazing human being.

Also..Demon With A Glass Hand ( my favorite of the 48 ) has to do with invaders from the future who have invaded Earth, only to find all of Earth's population vanished...they travel back in time to search for the only known survivor...Trent ( Culp )..what they don't know is that Earth has been poisoned to kill the invaders of the future and the "the demon" Culp is an android destined to walk the Earth for 600 years until the plague is over and he can restore humanity from its' hiding spot....SO what does ANY of that have to do with The Terminator?...And speaking of things Terminator..although I really liked Terminator 3..I just have 2 simple questions for someone perhaps more enlightened than moi :
1) If Arnold was sent back by Kate Brewster to protect her for the future...why didn't he also protect all of her & John's resistance leaders? He knew they would be targeted by the Termanatrix, but he justs let them get assassinated? What happens to the future then?..Do they just vanish, and all memory is forgotten? How does that affect the outcome of the war, where supposedly the humans defeat the machines?

2) Why didn't Arnold just go immediately to seek out General Brewster and destroy Skynet nice and neat, before any of it started? He knew Brewster and knew exactly where it was and when Skynet would launch attacks...certainly could have blown that puppy up in plenty of time....And finally...hasn't all this actually happened already?....I mean the computer control of our defense systems?....It's all operated by computers, just like Skynet...yes we control the buttons...but for how long?

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:03 PM

The 2nd trailer is also pretty darn cool!

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Friday, June 22, 2007 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by girlinthebox:





Uhhhh...*comes out of shock*
That was...heh heh...cool....heh heh...

Impressed Chrisisall

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Friday, June 22, 2007 1:01 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

1) If Arnold was sent back by Kate Brewster to protect her for the future...why didn't he also protect all of her & John's resistance leaders? He knew they would be targeted by the Termanatrix, but he justs let them get assassinated? What happens to the future then?..Do they just vanish, and all memory is forgotten? How does that affect the outcome of the war, where supposedly the humans defeat the machines?

All happens exactly as it is supposed to...or something like that...
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2) Why didn't Arnold just go immediately to seek out General Brewster and destroy Skynet nice and neat, before any of it started?

Disturbing the timeline that severely would cause an endless paradox- a loop from which there would be no escape.
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And finally...hasn't all this actually happened already?....I mean the computer control of our defense systems?....It's all operated by computers, just like Skynet...yes we control the buttons...but for how long?

As far as I know, no AI system is in control.....yet.
But it is in our nature to destroy ourselves.

Major bummer Chrisisall

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Friday, June 22, 2007 3:07 PM

To the best of my knowlege, there is no AI that has ever been given control of a weapons system. Current state of the art (AFAIK) is remote fired weapons (predator drones).
Bleeding edge: easily believed would be systems that can identify the radar signature of a specific pieces of military exclusive hardware (large vehicles (tanks, missile launchers, artillery, etc), ships, aircraft), and can target/fire autonomously.
However, the military, and more specifically, corporate lawyers currently want a human in the "weapons release" loop to ensure there is SOMEONE (not the company) to blame in the case of friendly fire/civilian death. Imagine the -storm that would follow if a "self guided" weapon were ever found to have misfired?

Then again, early 90's Tomohawk missile systems were GPS guided, and once over the target had a prioritized list of radar signatures to engage.
Predators /could/ be fully automated & the gov't just says they are remotes to keep us from getting our knickers in a twist. In the event of misfire they simply claim human error in target identification say someone's career was ended, then tell the manufacturer to update the software again to make the predator even smarter...


More importantly:
The trailers ROCK! I am going to have to buy a TiVO!

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Friday, June 22, 2007 3:12 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Disturbing the timeline that severely would cause an endless paragon-


Paradox.

(Or "parody," take your pick.)

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Friday, June 22, 2007 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:


(Or "parody," take your pick.)


Thanks for the correction, I was watching Rescue Me last night; it's addictive and not conducive to a full night's sleep.

*yawn*Chrisisall

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