What happened to music?
POSTED BY: kaneman
UPDATED: Saturday, September 5, 2026 17:18
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Wow!! this is exactly what I was thinking the other day on the way to my softball game, only I thought it was because I was getting old.
The seek button on my truck has all the printing worn off it from over use. What does that have to say about the music industry? In fact, why do you think the car manufacturers are putting those buttons on the steering wheel anyway.
Most people that have posted here, young and ... older, have said they lean towards the older music. That's where my seek button pauses now, on The Eagles, CCR, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jimmy Buffet and most definitely Billy Joel. I think it's because while it may not have always been 'good' music, it was at the very least music.
Take a look at American Idol or Canadian Idol. Watch to see what songs the kids are picking to sing. Watch to see where the industry wants them to sing and how to look, THAT'S whats happened to music.
I'm not a big fan of Country music or Rap, but I do like some of each. I liked Wil Smith, Fugees and even the Humpty Hump. But angry Gansta Rap??? C'mon.
I'm finding I like Norah Jones, and any artist that breaks the mold and sings something different.
K-OS is a great new sound. Harkens back to the hip-hop, funk sounds. Put The Crab In The Bucket was his first hit.
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Quote:Norah Jones won 5 Grammies almost right out the door singing tunes more reminiscent of the 1950s then 2007. What that says to me is that people are really pining for real music song with a beautiful voice, but something is making this current crap more profitable. I don’t know what it is.
Originally posted by safeat2nd:
I'm finding I like Norah Jones, and any artist that breaks the mold and sings something different.
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My main dislike is "artists" that don't actually sing. "Singing" means using one's voice as an instrument, acheiving different vocal effects through tone, modulation, pace (yes, rap qualifies). There are too many "singers" these days that just yell in time (sometimes) to the music.
Strangely enough, I've come to love Japanese rap. I think it's cause the language is better suited to short, sharp, clearly-defined syllables than English is.
The other thing is that music (like all art) needs to have some emotional core, even if it's just exhuberance (yeah, I'll even listen to pop music, as long as it makes me feel something). As someone once said WRT the new Battlestar Galactica: It's a mistake to think that "drama/emotion" has to mean "always serious."
This is why I can't stand my mom's shmaltzy "folk music" (one guy warbling a tune that was old when mom was a child, usually religious, talking about how great God is, carefully free of anything emotional or potentially new, unexpected, or offensive).
Of course, I also like my music from all over the world, in as many languages as I can find it, which is a problem when the local charts don't include anything from outside NorAm.
Some examples from my current playlist (on this machine; I have other music elsewhere):
"Broken Road" (by Rascal Flatts)
"Une Monde Sans Danger" (extended French theme song to Code Lyoko)
"Pride" (by High and Mighty Color, the theme song from Gundam Seed Destiny. Features a pop ballad backed by rap)
"You Mai You Lai" (by. . . by all means. I heard it in an AMV)
"5. Marz" (by Megaherz)
"Nothing Else Matters" (as performed by Gregorian Monks, an English ballad turned into a Latin chant)
"Baila Morena" (by Zucchero)
"Tu Hai Kahan" (by Junaid Jamshed)
"Ding Dong" (by Yuki Hsu. Mandarin pop)
"Rithill Aill" (by Karen Matheson)
"St. Elmo's Fire" (by John Parr)
"Wayward Son" (by the Eagles)
"A Place in Time" (extended version of the theme from The 4400)
"John The Revelator" (by Depeche Mode)
"Dangerous" (by Hilary Duff)
"What if I Stumble" (by DC Talk)
"Rise" (extended version of the theme from Ghost in the Shell: SAC: 2nd Gig. Japanese/Russian fusion, composed by Yoko Kanno and performed by Origa)
"Warriors" (by Freedom Call)
"Metal Invasion" (by Freedom Call)
"Holy Knight" (by Freedom Call)
"Hero Nation" (by Freedom Call)
"Could It Be" (by Christie Carlson Romano --the Kim/Ron love theme from Kim Possible)
"Listen To Your Heart" (the slow version, by Dht)
"Fields of Hope" (the Japanese version, performed by Lacus Clyne [played by Tanaka Rie] in Gundam Seed Destiny)
"Emotion" (performed in Japanese by Lacus Clyne and Meer Campbell)
"Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego" (the theme by Rockapella)
"Don't Download This Song" (by Weird Al)
"Shounen Heart" (the second opening from Eureka 7. Rappish jazz/pop)
"Rewrite" (by Asian Kung-Fu Generation, from Fullmetal Alchemist)
"Go" (by Amy Diamond)
"Shooting Star" (by Amy Diamond)
"Welcome to the City" (by Amy Diamond)
"Champion" (by Amy Diamond)
"First Day of my Life" (by Mel C --formerly Sporty Spice)
"Next Best Superstar" (by Mel C)
"D-Technolife" (by UVERworld, from Bleach)
"Ghost Riders in the Sky" (covered by Spiderbait, from Ghost Rider)
"Remember the Name" (by Fort Minor)
"I Still Believe" (by Hayden Panettiere --who plays Claire on Heroes)
"Moon on the Water" (by Maho & Koyuki, from Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad)
"Not Ready to Make Nice" (by the Dixie Chicks)
(I just realized; all my Evanescence and Within Temptation are on the other computer. 
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The execs and the corporate stations are messing with our music.
Over on Tash's site, www.strangefinger.com, we created a music board so we could share good music. Shall we share some of our finds here? A couple of years ago I had Fisher ( http://www.fishertheband.com/index.html) handed to me. Not my first choice (I like rock), but I love the leads voice. Very nice.
Who's next?
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TWG, I had heard their song Dirty Girl before. Not a bad group.
You know what I think is missing from today's music? Where's the story tellers gone?
Anywho, here's two Canadian groups for those who like music from around the world.
http://www.k-osmusic.com/home.asp Kinda a Rap, Hip-Hop, Disco blend.
http://www.greatbigsea.com/themusic/rantroar.aspx What I call "down east" music, or "down home". Definite Keltic flair to it.
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And a heart full of rain
And I know that I said
I'd never do it again
Oh and I love you sweet baby but I always take the long way home."
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I don't know too much about the music industry and it's intricacies (other than most pop music sucks nowadays), which is why I normally steer clear of discussions like this.
But what I do know is that I consider iTunes to be something of both a blessing and a curse. A curse in that some stuff isn't available for dumb reasons, but a blessing in that I can discover something I normally wouldn't have and feel like I uncovered buried treasure.
Yesterday, I was checking iTunes to see if there was anything new that warranted me getting a 20 dollar card to purchase. I see a tab that has "Knocked Up' on it. I click on it and discover that it's actually called "Strange Weirdos - Music from and inspired by "Knocked Up" by Loudon Wainwright III. So it's a soundtrack/latest album from the guy who not only had a small part in the movie (as the OB-GYN they finally settle on), as well as Judd's good luck charm (he was the father in UNDECLARED and the minister that marries Andy and Trish in THE 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN), but who also did some of the music in the movie.
Now, I had heard that he's a singer that acts, as opposed to an actor who sings, but I appreciated him more for his acting talent than his singing and songwriting. And the main reason I got the album was because of the association with KNOCKED UP (which BTW is an amazing comedy and the first true movie of the summer), and I recognized the score and the song from the end of the movie "Daughter". Well, I listen to the whole album today, and it's the best full album I've loved since "LOVE" by The Beatles. The album both works as a greek chorus of the film that perfectly tells the story of the movie and complements the film. And it also works as a stand-alone album from Loudon that showcases his funny and poetically insightful songwriting and his wise, romantic and melancholic singing voice.
It's just an incredibly beautiful album (I almost hesitate to call it a soundtrack because only a few of the tracks are in the actual movie) that I'm glad I discovered by accident.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if one can discover these little gems amidst the American Idol rejects and the disposable rappers and corporately manufactured dreck, and for those gems to be available to everyone, then the industry must be doing something right, even if it's by accident.
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Is it weird that I'm 16, and yet with the exception of Kenny Loggins in 84(?) and Guns n Roses in 88, I actually know, and prefer more of the songs from before 1980 than from after it?
I much prefer music from the 70s, 80s and early 90s, being that most of my favourite bands are now either old, split up or dead.
Though I can't believe that not even Nirvana were in it.
Someone should do one for the English charts.
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I think I'm going to be going out on a limb here, by saying that I don't, in fact, have a definite predisposition towards older music. Sure there's lots of older stuff I like, even love, but, the stuff i really go for are the gems among the new stuff. So maybe you have to look to find them, but hey, means the tickets for the gigs are cheaper.
The old stuff is what gives the new stuff I like depth, gives it a background and context, but I don't believe that it's inherently better, and I don't believe that the music industry is in 'decline,' it is after all an industry, it's principle concern is making money. Not sure why that seems so offensive to some. You want to listen to some really good, inventive music, get out and find it, whole worlds just waiting, and the discoveries are all the sweeter for having needed some effort.
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Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
I think I'm going to be going out on a limb here, by saying that I don't, in fact, have a definite predisposition towards older music. Sure there's lots of older stuff I like, even love, but, the stuff i really go for are the gems among the new stuff. So maybe you have to look to find them, but hey, means the tickets for the gigs are cheaper.
The old stuff is what gives the new stuff I like depth, gives it a background and context, but I don't believe that it's inherently better, and I don't believe that the music industry is in 'decline,' it is after all an industry, it's principle concern is making money. Not sure why that seems so offensive to some. You want to listen to some really good, inventive music, get out and find it, whole worlds just waiting, and the discoveries are all the sweeter for having needed some effort.
Agreed.
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I don’t think anyone was saying that the music industry is in decline. I think we are talking about the quality of the music is declining. The industry is obviously doing very well, but it’s doing very well with music that doesn’t seem to have nearly the quality of music from the past. And you’re right there is a lot of popular music that is very good. I made that point earlier. The point that is puzzling is that this music that is good doesn’t seem to have as much popularity as the music that isn’t really that good. I don’t know how to quantify that. I’m not music critic or musician, but like most people I do listen. It’s just an impression that I get from listening to the radio and watching what songs and artists seem to be the most popular. Now maybe I’m just getting old as someone suggested earlier. I have no doubt that could be part of it, but I don’t find myself shaking my finger at young people for their choice of music, because quite frequently, even many younger people seem to agree with me. I think there really is something tangible behind the observation that the quality of popular music is declining, in general.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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