What happened to music?
POSTED BY: kaneman
UPDATED: Saturday, September 5, 2026 17:18
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Well, the only rap I can stand is the Fugees, and that's mid-late nineties, back when the bling-n-babes movement wasn't in full swing...
EDIT: Oh, and the rap Gorillaz do. 'Battlesong,' 'Clint Eastwood,' the stuff with Del (a.k.a 'DELTRON.')
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I see why I don't buy music anymore. It seems there is not much out there that is worth the effort or the cash. I would comment on Rap, but I actually don't listen to it. It gives me a headache is about all I can say.
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While I agree the music industry ain't what it should be, I won't place the blame on Rap. It's the execs! (A particular style of rap drives me crazy, but historically, I've quite liked it...read that as a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.)
I remember working at the college radio station where we had two rules: don't play anything off of any current top ten and don't play/say anything to get fined. We could bring in our own music. It was a blast looking for obscure music.
These days I don't listen to the radio. If I do, I stick to oldies, classic rock, or some such. I buy an album, when someone I know recommends it.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
You guys are making yourselves sound very old.
Everyone thinks music was great when they were young, and the new stuff is crap.
Next, you'll be chasing kids off your lawn.
What about me? I'm 22 and I agree with pretty much all of what has been said here. Though I do have a strange taste in music. I beleive the term is eclectic. Everything from Billy Holiday, to The Who, to Loreena McKennitt, to a band called Lordy that I think is Norewegian or some such. And of course everything in between. Minus "Gangsta" Rap and anything harder than the above mentioned Lordy. I like some of the shouty rock music but only if it actually contains music in it somewhere.
Also, I stopped listening to the radio when I was about 17. Yet every time I get on a car with someone who has the radio on, it sound pretty much the same as it did five years ago. I miss music. Where did it go?
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Originally posted by Storymark:
You guys are making yourselves sound very old.
Everyone thinks music was great when they were young, and the new stuff is crap.
Next, you'll be chasing kids off your lawn.
How exactly is that? My only requirement is that bands/groups/etc actually play there music NOT by clicking play.
For that matter, I'm not saying that something isn't music b/c I don't like it. Hell, I absolutely HATE country music (except some Johnny Cash, gotta love Johnny Cash
), but it /is/ most certainly music.But, what does the rap/whatever people do. They take a track of real music, sample it, do whatever to it including messing with it, then (as has been said above) they put on a pissed off look and limp around /talking/, completely destroying the musical value of the original song.
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
You guys are making yourselves sound very old.
Everyone thinks music was great when they were young, and the new stuff is crap.
Next, you'll be chasing kids off your lawn.
How exactly is that? My only requirement is that bands/groups/etc actually play there music NOT by clicking play.
For that matter, I'm not saying that something isn't music b/c I don't like it. Hell, I absolutely HATE country music (except some Johnny Cash, gotta love Johnny Cash
But, what does the rap/whatever people do. They take a track of real music, sample it, do whatever to it including messing with it, then (as has been said above) they put on a pissed off look and limp around /talking/, completely destroying the musical value of the original song.
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They wreck your interpretation of musical value (and mine for that matter, I hate most Rap, too). But there are a LOT of people who really like it - it works for them. And in 10-15 years, they'll probably be complaining about whatever is popular then. And any music you like, I bet you we could find someone who hates it. It's just how it goes.
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Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
While I agree the music industry ain't what it should be, I won't place the blame on Rap. It's the execs!
I'd actually blame both.
Rap is so easy and mindless to do any "gangsta" can do it, which is rather problematic given the topic of most (if not all) rap for the past... while.
It's the execs fault as well b/c they promote it to the point where gangsta crap is pretty much glorified with obvious results. Which they in turn exploit.
This cycle continues.
*sigh*
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Originally posted by Storymark:
They wreck your interpretation of musical value (and mine for that matter, I hate most Rap, too). But there are a LOT of people who really like it - it works for them. And in 10-15 years, they'll probably be complaining about whatever is popular then. And any music you like, I bet you we could find someone who hates it. It's just how it goes.
I'd hate to tell you this, but "my" interpretation of musical value is... long standing. Think all music that pre-dates computers long standing and then some.
Oh, and we are exactly NOT talking about whether people like rap or not. For that matter, whether people like something or not has exactly NOTHING to do with whether it is music or not.
Nice straw-man btw.
Btw, an old class-mate and I were talking one day about this type of stuff. The conclusion that we came to is that rap et al was NOT music, BUT could be considered a kind of art. Though similar, these two are most certainly NOT the same.
Sorry, but a computer is not an instrument. Just b/c it can MIMIC something does NOT mean it is that something.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Damn kids and their rock music.
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Originally posted by Kayna:Quote:
to a band called Lordy that I think is Norewegian or some such.
If you mean Lordi it´s Finnish.
If you look at americas number one hits it seems that music died in mid 90s but the truth is there is still lots of good music, you just have to find it first. I personally like metal music and it seems that it´s getting pretty popular at least in Finland. Unfortunately the same thing that happened to punk and rap is happening to metal; many of the new bands are products of big labels and their only purpose is to make lots of money. Needless to say all those bands suck.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME