Trilogies: Really necessary? Only 3?
POSTED BY: Fastmover
UPDATED: Sunday, June 17, 2007 05:12
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Well, they could easily bring back Jack, Barbosa, Gibbs, Pintel, Ragetti, and the rest of the crew and leave Will and Elizabeth where they are.
Maybe grab a couple of other marketable names (Say, maybe one of: Nathan Filion, Adam Baldwin, Alan Tudyk, Sean Maher, Ron Glass, Gina Torres, Morena Baccarin, Jewel Stait, or Summer Glau) as new characters, tied to Jack's quest for the Fountain.
Really, if they meet up with Elizabeth again, it'll just weaken the emotional good-bye scene at the end of this one.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Well, they could easily bring back Jack, Barbosa, Gibbs, Pintel, Ragetti, and the rest of the crew and leave Will and Elizabeth where they are.
Maybe grab a couple of other marketable names (Say, maybe one of: Nathan Filion, Adam Baldwin, Alan Tudyk, Sean Maher, Ron Glass, Gina Torres, Morena Baccarin, Jewel Stait, or Summer Glau) as new characters, tied to Jack's quest for the Fountain.
Really, if they meet up with Elizabeth again, it'll just weaken the emotional good-bye scene at the end of this one.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
HAHA I fully agree. :) I think that at the point where Will and Elizabeth are, they should just let them be. I can't really see their story arc going any further. The only real reason I see for bringing them back, is like I said, they do seem to be the main appeal for younger viewers, especially girls. Bring in a new 'cute couple', like Jewel and Sean.
Also, I could just see Wash at the wheel of the Black Pearl wearing an eyepatch and screaming "Oh God, Oh God, we're all gonna die!" Jayne would fit in perfectly as a mercenary, as well as Gina in the tough environment. "Aargghhh, bring me my gorram chest, dumbass hog!" "What's in that chest? Maybe it's gold." And Morena could play some princess or another pirate lord in charge of the fountain. :) Okay I'm dreaming.
Oh, and another scene I really liked:
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When the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman attack the Endeavor with Cutler Beckett on board. I just love the scene when he walks down in defeat as everything around him explodes and utters his last words, "It was just good business." It's weird, but I loved that scene just like the one in Riddick when the Purifier finds himself and commits suicide.
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Actually, I was initially thinking Alan as Steve the Pirate.
Pirates of the Caribbean 4:
JACK vs STEVE
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Actually, I was initially thinking Alan as Steve the Pirate.
Pirates of the Caribbean 4:
JACK vs STEVE
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HAHA!
Another thought just occurred to me about Keira. Maybe she's just bluffing as a lot of stars do to get them to offer her more to reprise her role. Otherwise I really can't see her turning down a role in such a big movie when honestly she hasn't much else in her portfolio other than King Arthur.
Other actors, like those really cool ones we're talking about would probably kill a couple people, read the complete works of Shan Yu, and drink 2 cases of mudder's milk to get a role like that.
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Quote:Upon reflection, this sounds like what I'm trying to do. I currently have, in various stages of development:
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Actually, the one film trend that's more seen in independent and foreign cinema than mainstream Hollywood cinema is more of the "thematic series", where a filmmaker creates a series of films that may have one character or at least a theme that's repeated over a long period of time.
The most famous is obviously Kevin Smith and the "New Jersey Chronicles", where every movie he's done (sans JERSEY GIRL) all takes place within the Highland's area of New Jersey and have characters constantly reference other characters that were in other movies, with Jay and Silent Bob being the only recurring characters in each movie. Of all of those, only CLERKS II is a direct sequel to CLERKS. So it's more of a thematic series, as opposed to a Part 6. The only other time an independent American filmmaker has done something similar to that (which I know of), is Richard Linklater with BEFORE SUNRISE and BEFORE SUNSET. The former came out in 95, the latter in 04.
-A love story, as colonists from Earth join the previously self-contained colonies around Jupiter.
-A miniseries about a group of hard-luck smugglers who inadvertently bring about the solar system's first-contact with extra-terrestrial life, and about how this discovery causes civilization to collapse (humanity ends up divided among three civilizations: the Vanel Empire, the Earth Sphere, and the Hishidahte League).
-A political thriller as the exiled prince of the Hishiin returns to the Star Kingdom, leading a convoy of human refugees. He helps bring down his mother, the Regis, and reshape the Hishiin Star Kingdom into the Hishidahte League.
-A children's story/movie about a young Vanel princess named Pallas, who goes on an adventure with an alien named Hoorik (a Kurr) and learns a valuable lesson about prejudice before her father can rescue her.
-A cyberpunk murder mystery, set on Earth, as an android P.I. investigates a series of "murders" --androids having been wrecked and their cyberbrains hacked and wiped. She eventually learns that the suspect/victim is himself only a bit player in a much larger scheme.
-A children's series centred around a group of rookie fighter pilots, one of whom is an android recently escaped from a "no longer safe" Earth. Another pilot is a Vanel soldier (and another is a Kurr). At one point, the rookies cross paths with a pair of gun-runners (aboard the freighter Starry Knight), fomenting rebellion against the Empire. When the soldier sees the woman smuggler, he reacts in shock. Over time, the characters learn that a shadowy enemy has been manipulating events behind the scenes. . .
-An educational series (aimed at younger children), involving a group of Hishidahte explorers (led by a human, and including representatives of several different species, civilizations, and creeds) as they travel the galaxy, investigating nebulae, quasars, different solar systems, life-forms, and spatial phenomena.
-An action/adventure movie-or-series focusing on the teenage princess Pallas Khalil of the Vanel Empire, who has been actively undermining her father's corrupt and fascist regime, with her boyfriend, pilot of the Starry Knight. The Empire is overthrown as a new threat arises, one linked to Earth.
They're all self-contained, but they all share the same universe, crossing over wherever I can find a place for it.
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Originally posted by lwaves:
To me the 'tradition' of making a trilogy is a more recent development.
For example:
The first Matrix did very well. The makers said that they always planned it as a trilogy (yeah right) and then they bolluxed the next two up.
Spider-Man was 'supposed' to have been set out as a trilogy from the start, but only Harry's arc really continues and you can't count Peter Parker as all the films are about him.
X-Men was the same. First one hit big so they say they are doing a trilogy, and they know they have interest for two more films. After that.....
I think a lot of trilogies these days are just made for the money, sure the first movies are normally great but by the time the third comes around they care little for the source material and go to the box office to simply cash-in their checks.
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