LOST season finale' - Spoilers? Hell yeah there are!!
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Thursday, May 31, 2007 20:45
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Originally posted by ReginaRoadie:Select to view spoiler:
The reason Charlie decided to die and not save his ass was because if he had defied Desmond's flash of the future, then Claire and Aaron wouldn't be able to leave the island on the helicopter. That was the whole reason he did it. The earlier episode with Desmond's flash of Naomi arriving proved that by changing one of the flashes, then the outcome would be altered. So Charlie had to die in order to save Claire, Aaron and everyone else on the island.
I knew that.
Just lost it in the discussion. LOL
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The thing you've got to remember about "The Looking Glass":
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Without getting too technical (cause that spoils the fun of the show) if Charlie had not shut and locked the door, both he and Desmond would have died.
The amount of water rushing into the control center alone was potentially not enough to physically crush anyone. However if the door hadn't been closed, the Moonpool would have exploded up into the module at a much greater speed and with more mass which would have easily crushed and killed both Desmond and Charlie.
If, by chance, they were not crushed and killed, they still would not have been able to swim out through the Moonpool, as the direction of flowing water would have prevented it. They both would have drowned, much like those poor souls who die becasue they are too close to a sinking ship, they get sucked in.
Just my idle 2 cents.
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A few more things which bothered me about the finale'....
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Jack says he keeps flying back and forth over the Pacific, hoping his plane will crash - again - on the Island. 2 things are wrong w/ that. We know that the reason that Oceanic 815 crashed due to the pulse from the hatch, because Desmond didn't reset the clock. That device is destroyed now, so how's he expecting the plane to crash EXACTLY on the Island again? Have you SEEN how big the Pacific ocean is ? And another thing, he got RESCUED! By that fact alone, the location of the island has to be known. Even if for some reason the exact location isn't known, the general area is. It doesn't make sense that Jack would blindly fly over and over the ocean , no where near where his last plane crashed, looking for his island again.
Kate and Sawyer. Would they really be able to stick together, after they got off the island ? Think about it. Both have been on the run from the law for a long time, and Kate at least is a known fugitive. Supposing she some how slipped past the authoriies undetected upon arriving back to civilization, she'd have to stay low and hope they think she had died in the crash. And Sawyer, what sort of man would he become now that he had finally caught up to his name sake ? Would that 'change' him to a better man, or would he simply fall back to the ways he'd grown accustomed to? Either way, would he still stick around with Kate, get a 'real' job and settle down? I'm guessing that it's a stretch that those 2 are really together. But if they are, then why are THEY still alive too ? Wasn't saving them a death sentence as well ?
I do not think what we saw is really what we think we saw. That's all I'm sayin'.
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OK, first off, this whole topic is about the season finale, says so in the title. If you didn't watch the episode, and are going to be upset about it being spoiled, don't read the damned thread! So I am not going to use the spoiler things on my thoughts.
Whoever said the Charlie died so Claire and Aaron could get on the helicopter had it right. He could have lived if he wanted, but needed to drown in the way Desmond told him he would to make Desmond's whole vision come true. At least that was his thinking, so his death made perfect sense.
I don't think that Jack talking about his dad was an alternate timeline or him truly hallucinating. I think he was stoned, and talked about his dad being drunk upstairs. My guess is it was just one of those things people kind of screw up when they are high.
My guess is it was Michael's "funeral" that Jack went to, given the part of town it was in and no one else showed up. Very hard to say though.
Loved the episode, and can't wait till February.
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Originally posted by patsrule:
I don't think that Jack talking about his dad was an alternate timeline or him truly hallucinating. I think he was stoned, and talked about his dad being drunk upstairs. My guess is it was just one of those things people kind of screw up when they are high.
But also, don't forget that when he was trying to get a refill on his drugs, he handed the pharmacist a prescription (supposedly) written by his dad...
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whoa, Patsrule, you are such a rebel!... actually, i have always thought the little blue spoiler thing to be a tad silly, i mean who's not gonna read it, right?
anyway, after watching the finale online last night (i missed a part there in the middle) - i have to say that i have no empathy for any of the characters - or the ones left anyway - i did like charlie and eko - and even naomi (well i just like the name Naomi), but this core group, jack, kate, sawyer, locke -et al, they all have serious baggage and IMO are just stuck in purgatory on their way to hell....
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Quote:I'm not too sure about this. Yes, the water would have risen through the moonpool, but why would it have done it so explosively? Sure, it would've been quick, too quick for anyone to escape through it while it's rising, but not enough to crush anyone by a long shot. It could only rise as quickly as air was able to escape, which wouldn't have been too quick since the window is a comparatively tiny hole and a lot of water is coming through it from the other direction.
Originally posted by Stegasaurus:
Without getting too technical (cause that spoils the fun of the show) if Charlie had not shut and locked the door, both he and Desmond would have died.
The amount of water rushing into the control center alone was potentially not enough to physically crush anyone. However if the door hadn't been closed, the Moonpool would have exploded up into the module at a much greater speed and with more mass which would have easily crushed and killed both Desmond and Charlie.
If, by chance, they were not crushed and killed, they still would not have been able to swim out through the Moonpool, as the direction of flowing water would have prevented it. They both would have drowned, much like those poor souls who die becasue they are too close to a sinking ship, they get sucked in.
The part I'm more concerned about is that I don't see how that room Charlie was in could've filled with water; I think the water could have only risen to a level just above the window since after that the air wouldn't be able to escape anymore. This applies to the whole station as well, so that if the door hadn't been closed the water would have risen by only about 7 or so feet.
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Quote:My guess is Michael.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
And who was in the casket ? Was it Sawyer ? Or is Kate with Sawyer now, and maybe it was John Locke in the box. Who ?
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Originally posted by Khyron:Quote:My guess is Michael.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
And who was in the casket ? Was it Sawyer ? Or is Kate with Sawyer now, and maybe it was John Locke in the box. Who ?
Michael in the coffin makes more and more sense. And remember, Locke wanted to stay on the Island, as did Walt. Why must we assume they WERE rescued ?
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
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What happened to Charlie was suppose to happen and he knew it. Therefore he decided not to change things. As for the rest of the eps. It sure left more questins than answers. Good writing by the creators of the show will hook everyone into tuning in next season. Smart move.
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