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...On another note, Zoid, I beat you by 3 points xD
(Just a little male competitiveness for the benefit of any who may seize on it ^^ )
Usually, when I examine the subject of my 'IQ' and how it affects my life, I truly wish it was in the 125 range. I consider it more of a curse than a blessing. But, I also think God made me the way S/He needs me to be, in order for me to be a proper implement in Her/His plan. So, I'm suffering it as best as I can. It just hurts to be so out of whack with the vast majority of people, including my loved ones.
If I envy anyone anything, it's the ability to not be forced to continually be keenly observant of every little detail and extrapolate the 'big picture', by osmosis, as it were.
If I had a dime for every time somebody thought I was psychic when it's really only pattern recognition... And when I start speaking freely (free associating), just letting my mind have its way...and then notice that everyone's sorta standing around, eyes glazed...and then I have to go back and restate the whole idea in small, easy to consume pieces...
It's not that I mind having to strictly marshal my thoughts in order for people to understand them. Quite the contrary. I admire all people and want to be accepted and liked, just like anyone else. What I borderline hate is that my mind skips ahead like that in the first place.
So, you can keep your three extra points. If I could give 30 points away to somebody who'd be happy with 'em, I would. For the most part, there is very little opportunity to use them in our society at large, with its lowest common denominator formulations. And you're drawing a target on your chest on the rare occasion when they are useful, imho.
I mean, don't you ever get tired of knowing how the movie is going to end, 10 minutes in? Of being able to see who's going to wind up arguing with whom? Of being able to foretell how people are going to act, in general?
In my job as air traffic controller, I'll routinely be able to predict my next ten radio calls in the correct order, almost to the second, and be able to tell you who's gonna screw up (turn the wrong way, get lost, misreport their position, etc.). Other controllers are stunned when I do this. But I always tell them, "I ain't psychic, I'm just paying attention to details." I'm not sure they believe me, regardless how painstakingly I explain the process that took me only a blink of an eye to perform.
I don't do it to impress anyone. I don't require the validation of others to feel good (or bad) about myself. I do it because it's what I do, who I am. And I would fervently wish to God it was otherwise, but it's Her/His gift; I'm just carrying it for awhile...
Thoughtfully,
zoid
P.S.
There really is no good way of stating this sentiment. I'm going to take some heat for having expressed it, either publicly or -- in the case of those who keep their opinions to themselves -- privately. But, damn it, it's how I feel, so, I'll leave it in (against a strong urge to delete the whole thing without posting it). If it helps even one person know that they aren't suffering alone, it's worth my pain. Chivalry requires it of me.
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This thread is going weird places too... Male competitiveness.. lol.. so I guess that is a stereotype we embrase with fondness?? Im only asking... Or is it merely an excuse when a male is competitive.. always wondered. Ive heard that excuse a lot.
Im happy with my 127 IQ.. might not be useful for anything other than strengthening my false sense of superiority but hey.. thats enough for me.. 
Constance
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Originally posted by zoid:
If I envy anyone anything, it's the ability to not be forced to continually be keenly observant of every little detail and extrapolate the 'big picture', by osmosis, as it were.
If I had a dime for every time somebody thought I was psychic when it's really only pattern recognition... And when I start speaking freely (free associating), just letting my mind have its way...and then notice that everyone's sorta standing around, eyes glazed...and then I have to go back and restate the whole idea in small, easy to consume pieces...
Boy, oh boy, do I feel your pain. The thing that many people don't get is that it's not like being gifted in one area means being gifted in every area. I think I have above-average conceptual and analytical skills. But that comes at the cost of social and emotional intelligence. Sometimes I'd give my right arm (no biggie, I'm a lefty!) to have the same sort of insight into emotional motivations that I have with conceptual and analytic problems. Plus, you can't really open a conversation by saying, "So, what do you think of Plantinga's modal reformulation of Anselm's Ontological argument?"
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Originally posted by Constance:
This thread is going weird places too... Male competitiveness.. lol.. so I guess that is a stereotype we embrase with fondness?? Im only asking... Or is it merely an excuse when a male is competitive.. always wondered. Ive heard that excuse a lot.
Im happy with my 127 IQ.. might not be useful for anything other than strengthening my false sense of superiority but hey.. thats enough for me..
Constance
I'm telling you, you are positively normal and the world is designed for normal people. Being 'top 10%', as Simon put it, is a royal pain in the ass. Look at all the friends it made him aboard Serenity. Every once in awhile it comes in handy, but only rarely, and those few occasions don't come close to off-setting the drag life can be the rest of the time.
Don't wish for what you have not already got. If you're not careful you might get it, to your own greater detriment. Ask RiveR6213 sometime how happy getting to the top of her particular pile has made her...
Dumbly,
zoid
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I love RiveR6213. Unfortunately, she is a bleeding mass of open psychological wounds (many of them self-inflicted), compounded by physical illness, a chemical imbalance. She is a lost soul, not an evil one. I would not rebuke someone for being sick, infirm. Neither would I condone them spreading their illness to others. Such a quandary...
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Zoid:
Im not asking for anything. Im more of a wait and see what happens kind of person.. I certainly have never wanted to become a MENSA member. You play the hand your dealt, the best way you can. (only I dont believe in any dealer...) I think Im more than intelligent enough. I am (and this would have surprised the 15 year old me a great deal) happy with who I am too. (as for what is normal... well take that another time in another thread should the need arise)
going back to the topic now?? Or is this part of it,and it was just me who didnt pay attention in class?
Constance
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Quote:I don't know much about IQ testing and I never had mine tested (I mean seriously, what's the point!? I already know everybody else sucks
Originally posted by zoid (to Constance):
I'm telling you, you are positively normal and the world is designed for normal people. Being 'top 10%', as Simon put it, is a royal pain in the ass.
), but isn't Constance's 127 close to Mensa level? Wouldn't that put her around the top 2%? It doesn't seem like that would make her 'normal'.Besides, I don't think a lower IQ corresponds to a person being more 'normal'.
EDIT: Okay, I checked ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International), she misses out by 5 points. Still, should put her well within the top 5%, plus I'm sure an IQ isn't fixed, it depends what sort of day one is having when one takes the test and what sort of questions come up. Right? Or am I making even more of a fool out of myself at the moment?
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Originally posted by Khyron:
Besides, I don't think a lower IQ corresponds to a person being more 'normal'.
I think the normal here is where on the IQ scale most people are...
And having my IQ discussed here is kind of embarrasing *blushes*...
Anyways, normal is a difficult consept...
Where is the chest ponding btw?
Constance
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Quote:Maybe, but his "designed for normal people" made it sound like the all-round kind of normality.
Originally posted by Constance:
I think the normal here is where on the IQ scale most people are...
Quote:I opened a door for a lady today! I'm a hero! *pounds chest*
Where is the chest ponding btw?
She didn't have sex with me though...

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Originally posted by Khyron:Quote:I opened a door for a lady today! I'm a hero! *pounds chest*
Where is the chest ponding btw?
She didn't have sex with me though...
LOL!!
Constance
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Originally posted by Causal:
...Plus, you can't really open a conversation by saying, "So, what do you think of Plantinga's modal reformulation of Anselm's Ontological argument?"
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You can't?!?

I'm more or less fine in social and emotional situations (with the exception of those what takes sudden irrational dislike). My blind spot takes the form of a sort of myopia: When I'm concentrating on a specific object of investigation, the rest of the world could burn down around me. Single-minded, I call it; Rude, my wife calls it.
I know people better than they know themselves. It's written all over them. It's in the words they say and the words they don't say, and in between the lines...
So, ummm, chivalry, huh?
Non-Formulaically,
zoid
P.S.
Whichever so-called dictionary editor wrote that simplistic definition of chivalry in one of the posts above should be taken out and hanged. Here's a better one, and this is just the first one that popped up on Google and scanned for a half a minute... http://www.chronique.com/Library/Chivalry/code.htm
And then there is bushido, http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/bushido/bindex.html developed half a world away, with a completely different worldview and spiritual association; and yet which matches Christian chivalry in more than just a passing way.
So perhaps, Constance, we should just pay a little respect for men being what men are. Not admiration, just awareness that there is some evidence that men are different from women in some fundamental ways.
(NB: I've still got my money on it all being down to the physiological effects of testosterone. Especially since it's a sucker bet...)
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