Heroes Season Finale -- SPOILERS --
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UPDATED: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:24
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Did anybody else get a kick that the building full of mutants was the Kirby Building?
Hee, looks like Micah's got a girlfriend. Definite sparkage between him & Molly.
Quote:Well, what else was she gonna call him? She didn't know the name Sylar, doesn't know all the hip pop-culture references that we or Hiro know, doesn't know technical terms that Matt would know.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The boogeyman? Do children really use that term anymore?
All she knows is that a very scary guy murdered her parents.
Quote:No, I got that too.
One final point before I’m done, when Hiro had teleported to 1671 Kyoto, I’m assuming the lone Samuraion the hill was Kensei? And didn’t his eyes look a lot of like George Takei? Or am I just confused?
Being an Immortal would certainly explain. . . well, just about everything we've seen of Nakamura-san.
So, who do we think's gonna be back next season? Hiro almost certainly. Mohinder will probably still be tracking down mutants, though he'll probably get someone else to look after Molly (or maybe he'll use her to find other mutants, though bringing her along may be dangerous). I'm sure DL and Nikki will be ready to go back to "normal," but Micah seems to have superheroic ambitions, so he may pull them into events.
I can easily see Claire and her dad staying on the sidelines and off-camera. I hope Matt survives, if only so he can go back to his wife and baby-to-be and live a normal life. I doubt Peter and Nathan will be returning, though I'm sure their mother will still be a player in events.
And are we sure Sylar survived being run through? Is it not possible that Someone opened the manhole and dragged his body away for their own nefarious purposes? A non-regenerator surviving being stabbed through the centre of the torso pushes the show's otherwise acceptable credibility (though, given Sylar's powers, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could have somehow telekinetically "repaired" himself, "bypassing" the internal damage).
When Molly talked about the Other, the one who can see her when she scans him, and cancel out her powers, did anyone else suddenly think that we haven't seen the Haitian in a while?
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Quote:Maybe, but I’m generally surprised by how much 10-year olds actually know.
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Well, what else was she gonna call him? She didn't know the name Sylar, doesn't know all the hip pop-culture references that we or Hiro know, doesn't know technical terms that Matt would know.
Quote:Peter and Nathan will be back, I suspect. Somehow, they’ll bring them both back and both Peter and Nation will play a major role, if not the major role in the next season. As it stands right now, Ma Patrelli is positioned as the supervillian, and who better to face her then her own sons. Nope, as hard to believe as it might end up being, they will bring them both back, I suspect, but they will have to curtail Peter’s powers somehow.
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
So, who do we think's gonna be back next season? Hiro almost certainly. Mohinder will probably still be tracking down mutants, though he'll probably get someone else to look after Molly (or maybe he'll use her to find other mutants, though bringing her along may be dangerous). I'm sure DL and Nikki will be ready to go back to "normal," but Micah seems to have superheroic ambitions, so he may pull them into events.
So will Claire and Nikki and Hiro. They probably won’t get rid of Claire until Hayden wants to go. And Nikki has too much potential to become the next “slayer,” and everyone likes ass-kicking blondes. Hiro is like Peter, he’s too critical to the storyline to lose.
Ando will not. His purpose was to play sidekick to Hiro, but Hiro has emerged as a much more independent and dark figure then he started and doesn’t need a sidekick.
Parkman will not. He was never really an important character. He’ll die or survive and go back to his wife, but he won’t play a major role. Unless Molly ends up with Parkman, that’s the only way I can see Parkman playing any part in S2.
DL, I don’t know. He’s not a very important character either, so he may die. But they’ll keep Nikki, and so they’ll keep Micah.
Molly will be back, my guess she’ll probably go live with someone (Suresh, Nikki or Bennett or some off screen adoptive/foster family), but she’ll remain an import part of Suresh’s study and probably affection.
Suresh will be back. He’s central to the story, because he’s the story-teller. In these kinds of epic stories there’s always a story-teller, someone who is most likely in a position to relate the events of the story.
Bennett will be back too. I suspect Bennett with Suresh’s assistant will become something of a leader providing Peter and others will the benefit of his experience.
Don’t know about the Haitian, but I suspect he will be Ma Patrelli’s right-hand man now and we’ll discover that he was playing a much more sinister role then previously presented.
Sylar will be back.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Question. Has Peter at any time shown any sign of having absorbed Hiros power? He met Hiro several times after absorbing first Nathans then Isaacs powers.
I'm not counting his trip to the balcony in this last ep because he was only visible to Roundtree, and they usually show if he goes invisible.
If he has Hiros power, might he tell Nathan when to fly away, explode, then blink someplace else to heal?
Deb
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Originally posted by sweetserendipity:
Question. Has Peter at any time shown any sign of having absorbed Hiros power?
He is reported as having used Hiro's ability to freeze time in an episode I personally missed, but so far he's shown no ability at time travel per se.
His apparent jaunt back in time in the season closer seems most likely to me to be related to his earlier semi-precognitive dreams. (Which have proven inaccurate in detail, possibly because of Hiro's/Future Hiro's attempts at correcting the timeline.) Perhaps it's a result of Hiro's time-bending abilities interacting with the telepathic abilities Peter absored from the mind-reading cop. Whether the time travel aspect is real or merely an extension of "dream logic" is up in the air right now. Rather like Peter and Nathan...
"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn
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A general question: Did anyone else note how the "Deliberate death of half of New York to unite the world against a common enemy" thing echoes the classic graphic novel "Watchmen"?
Of course they have no right to complain, as Alan Moore cribbed the theme from an old "Outer Limits" episode, as acknowledged in a bit of dialog in the last chapter of "Watchmen". In much the same way "Heroes" acknowledged their debt to X-Men's "Days of Future Past" storyline by having Hiro refer directly to it in an early episode.
As they say, if you're going to steal, steal from the best...
"Homage? That's French for "rip off"."
"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn
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Originally posted by sweetserendipity:
Question. Has Peter at any time shown any sign of having absorbed Hiros power? He met Hiro several times after absorbing first Nathans then Isaacs powers.
Peter showed signs of having Hiro's power when he first met Hiro on the subway. Hiro's ability to take someone out of space-time is limited to physical contact. Hiro mmust be touching the person who he's trying to take out of space-time.
When Peter met Hiro, he was the only one on the subway who was not "time stopped". This is because the moment Hiro came into close proximity to Peter, Peter's power began mimicking Hiro's.
Aside from this case, we saw Peter blatantly use Hiro's power in "5 Years Gone".
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Just seent the episode not as good as what thought it would be but it didnt dissapoint. Cant wait for the new season. Hiro stabbed Sylar right through the gut but he still managed to get away without anyone seeing come on....Hiro rules!!
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I expressed my own doubt over Sylar slithering away into the sewer without being noticed. But my sister reminded me that at the time, everyone was looking up.
I'm next to positive that Mr. Nakamura and Kinsei are one and the same. But that doesn't necessarily mean he is immortal. If he has the same power as Hiro, then time is irrelevant. He can conquer his enemies in the 18th century and then jump ahead to the 20th century to settle down and raise his mutant family. I wonder what power Kimiko has???
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Kimiko may have none. Didn't daddy Nakamura say he was waiting for the ascension and didn't expect it to be Hiro?
Deb
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Overall, I liked the episode but thought that some of the writing was perhaps a bit contrived. I don't recall Nikki meeting either Sylar or Peter, so why attack either one? As far as she knows she could be attacking a good guy. I liked seeing her get involved but give her a reason; she'd probably trust Parkman if he had said something like "Help him".
I don't mind if Sylar lives, I just don't like the way it happened. Good guys look away and the "dead" villain disappears? That's a bad horror movie ending, and I consider it one of the weakest parts of the series. (Although his comment to Ando when he saw his death scene in the comic could have been a way of saying "A sword won't kill me.")
Personally, I think Sylar was actually trying to be a hero of sorts. He killed Ted to stop the explosion (and took his power because, well, it's a useful power). Then he discovers it's not Ted, it's Peter who explodes. I think he might have been trying to provoke Peter so that it would become very public, at which point he would kill Peter and stop the explosion, appearing as a hero to the general public.
As for the dream, I think that was a power that belonged to Simone's father. Peter absorbed it while caring for him and unconsciously used it at that point, as well as a couple of times earlier in the season (Nathan's car accident, the passing of Simone's father). And as someone else already suggested, it's probably a combination of this and Hiro's abilities that allowed him to communicate in the past.
How long will Suresh have to keep creating a serum for Molly, and can it be synthesized? I think that will determine what happens to Molly.
So when Chloe got knocked out did she revert to her true form? Or did she decide that Nikki was too much of a threat and create an illusion that would end the fight, and choose a form that Micah would recognize?
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