Heroes Season Finale -- SPOILERS --

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CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:06 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Of course, if Nathan really had it all figured out, he would have told is brother to fly himself off. The exchange could gone like this:

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Nathan: “Peter, fly away! Did your stint on the Gilmore Girls rot your brain?”

Peter: “Oh, yeah. I forgot, I’m god. Not only can lay waste to entire cities, but I can fly or teleport to any point on earth or time.”

My thought on that: Peter was investing so much attention and energy to not going boom that to have taken any of that away--so to fly or teleport--would have made him go boom anyway. Seriously--do we really think he forgot about all that other stuff?

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:16 AM

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Originally posted by Causal:
My thought on that: Peter was investing so much attention and energy to not going boom that to have taken any of that away--so to fly or teleport--would have made him go boom anyway. Seriously--do we really think he forgot about all that other stuff?

Yeah, I think that is a reasonable explanation. I’m not going to speculate about it, because I don’t know why. We were never told. But I like that Heroes doesn’t try to provide all the explanations up front. You only get bits and pieces of it, much like in real life.

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CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:18 AM

Curse their realism! Why can't they give it to us with Star-Trekkian techno-babble? Why??

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:30 AM

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Originally posted by Causal:
Curse their realism! Why can't they give it to us with Star-Trekkian techno-babble? Why??

Man, I really hope no one’s blood gets tested for Midichlorians.

And Molly? Does anyone get the impression her lines seemed a little stilted? The boogeyman? Do children really use that term anymore?

But speaking of technobabble – did anyone see X-men:Last Stand? They made a big point of talking about the Level 5 mutants, which I assume are the Omega class mutants from the comic (the mutants whose powers were infinite.) I was thinking the other day about what those levels might actually mean. How would the Heroes heroes level up? Peter is about as close to Level 5 as we’ve seen. Sylar’s ability, intuitive aptitude, was not too impressive by itself – Level 1?

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One final point before I’m done, when Hiro had teleported to 1671 Kyoto, I’m assuming the lone Samuraion the hill was Kensei? And didn’t his eyes look a lot of like George Takei? Or am I just confused?

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LESATHER

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:50 AM

I am just curious to find out who/what is more powerful than Syler. When Molly said there was someone worse than him I got excited because I knew they would have to drop some clue to keep everyone speculating over the summer.

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REGINAROADIE

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:19 AM

OH MY GOD!!! That is without a doubt the most impressive season finale for a first season show I've seen in a very long time. There's so much that happened that's been already mentioned on this thread, so I don't want to re-hash.

As per if the Petrelli's survived, I'd like to think that both of them sacrificed themselves so that they truly could save the world. Peter's arc has always been finding a purpose and meaning with his life and these powers, and Nathan's arc has been one of suppression and learning to finally embrace who he is. So that both of their arc's should come together in one last act of heroism was just beautiful. If they were to show up in next season's premiere with charred clothes and a "I'm all right", then the act would be cheapened, and HEROES's repuation of great storytelling would be ruined.

I also loved the last bit between Hiro and Ando. How it ended with them back in the office cubicles and Hiro saying that he learned bravery from Ando and that Hiro will join the ranks of Star Trek, Star Wars, Superman and Kensei. It was very touching. And of course that last line of "You look real bad ass."

And Hiro ending up in 1671 Japan with Kensei was just icing on the cake.

Noah Bennett. Appropriate name for a guy whose collecting specials.

I also liked how the showdown wasn't just Peter/Sylar, but a more low key Justice League type showdown.

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SINGATE

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I saw the Nathan/Peter thing from miles away. Everyone knew that Nathan was going to come back and fly Peter out of trouble.

You may have seen it from miles away but I posted this theory months ago when Peter first had the vision of himself exploding. So in the immortal words of Cybersnark, "Called it!" Then again I've come up with so many theories for this show I was bound to get one right. Throw enough darts and eventually you'll get a bullseye.

I was expecting the final showdown to be a bit more than it ended up being. To be honest I did not forsee so many of the others being involved. I have to admit that I enjoyed seeing Nikki kick some ass as herself even though for most of the season I was praying for her death. On a similar note as much as I like Parkman there should be no way he survives all those bullets to the torso. Hiro should have finished the job but I enjoy Sylar as the antagonist so it's just as well. Wonder where the writers are going to take him. That whole thing with the cockroach was a nice throwback to his incarceration. Apparently he studied their amazing survival skills enough to somehow implement them in himself.

I'm curious about something. If Sylar's plan was to upset Peter into nuking the city how is it that he was going to survive? Or did he not care anymore? Does Ted's ability allow him to survive a blast set off by another person? I could understand the radiation aspect but the explosion should blow him apart.

During Hiro's epilogue that guy on the horse really did look like his father. Either an ancestor or his father is a lot older than he appears.

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ROCKETJOCK

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:06 AM

Okay, a few random points:

1. Peter never did have a lot of skill at the flying thing. I don't recall him ever flying for more than a few seconds at a time except for the five-years-later alternate timeline, when he'd presumably had a lot more time to practice at it.

2. Seeing as it was taking all Peter's focus to stop Ted Sprague's ability from getting all China Syndrome on New York's ass, I can't really see him getting above treetop level before he blew, if he was trying to fly under his own power.

3. Peter will almost undoubtedly survive his self-immolation. We know from the (now excised) alternate future that the regenerative abilities absorbed from Claire will protect him. Nathan, on the other hand, has a much lower probability of survival; even with his speed, I can't see him getting to the edge of space and back to atmo before his lungs would have run out of air, let alone getting clear of effective blast radius. But heck, I don't even believe Steve Rogers is really dead, don't pay no mind to me...

4. I'm a little pissed that they let Sylar live too, but, as a certain Cimmerian barbarian once remarked, "Never count a sorcerer dead until you have killed him at least three times."

5. Parenthetically, returning to the alternate timeline thing: I love the way this series plays new variations on classic comic book riffs. But isn't it funny; if Marvel ever harbored thoughts of adapting "Days of Future Past" into a live-action X-Men movie, they'd better drop them now. Everybody would just say, "Ah, they ripped that off from Heroes..."

(Edited slightly to restore missing observation.)

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SWEETSERENDIPITY

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:56 AM

Maybe the proximity of the sewer entrance was no coincidence. Could Sylar have survived the blast from underground? Goad Peter into starting the nuclear process, then dive into the sewer while everyone is distracted.

I have to admit missing the boogeyman thing as I received a long B-day call during the middle of the ep, but I'll be rewatching it online to catch everything.

Something no one has mentioned yet, where is Molly going to end up? I loved the little family unit scene with Nikki, DL, Micah and Molly. Maybe they can raise and protect her?

And what was the whole thing with Simones dad?

Deb

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:15 AM

Okay, I liked the finale, but I felt the ending was a bit rushed, like they were trying to just wrap it up and move on.

The battle between Sylar and Peter should have been a power slugfest, but Peter punches him in the face???

Why didn't Hiro cut off Sylar's head?!? When he ran him through than slid up to the right to stand on Sylar's left I was screaming for Hiro to pivot and cut off Sylar's head. Alas, it seems the writers want him to come back next season.

Who is this man who is worse than the Bogeyman that Molly won't "find"? How is it he can see her?

How did Charles see Peter when he time traveled or dream walked (whatever it was)? Did he have some sort of power? Did Peter imagine it all?

If NBC is not cowards, they will write it as Nathan died saving NYC and saving Peter from the guilt of being the bomb and killing so many people. That way Nathan gets redemption for his duplicity and retains his place as Peter's "hero". If they wuss out they will say he dropped Peter and soared off to save himself. Guess we wait until the fall to find out.

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