Do You Believe the Miracles in the Bible Really Happened?

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RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:04 AM

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Originally posted by misbehavin:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Well it seems that most people don't believe in the Miracles that are in the bible. Too bad. It would have been fun to know that something like that was true.
-River

Sorry that I arrived at this topic late, but wanted to add my voice to the mix. I absolutely believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, performed all of the miracles exactly as described, willingly died to pay my penalty for sin, rose in bodily form from the grave, and that he will come again as the King that he is. Those miracles validated that he truly was and is the Son of God. Not many will believe, but we're told to expect that. Narrow is the way that leads to life and few find it. In fact, we are incapable of believing unless God himself enables us. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." If you are curious, River, God may be drawing you. Read the book of John, asking God first to open your eyes for understanding, and maybe you will discover faith. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn001.html

Thank you for that. You are the person that I was searching for when I created this thread topic. I am not a Christian at all, nor will ever be. I was just curious about the miracles that Jesus was supposed to have done, and I was also curious about why were those particular miracles were a one time deal. But thank you for being honest and going against the many who say that the miracles did not happen. I guess you are demonstrating faith, and belief. For some unknown reason this gives me hope.

-River

CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:10 AM

Sorry, River, that you felt that we were all anti-miracle. My long and rambling post was my way of saying, "Yes, I believe that the miracles happened." I agree with Misbehaving on this one.

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RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:19 AM

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Originally posted by Causal:
Sorry, River, that you felt that we were all anti-miracle. My long and rambling post was my way of saying, "Yes, I believe that the miracles happened." I agree with Misbehaving on this one.

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- Grand High Poobah of the Mythical Land of Iowa, and Keeper of State Secrets
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I read your earlier post and I got that. You were one of the few that believed in the miracles, so no sorry is needed. I don't know why but I've been angry all day regarding this particular thread and I can't put my finger on why. This is a good example why people should not isolate themselves I suspect.

-River

CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:21 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I read your earlier post and I got that. You were one of the few that believed in the miracles, so no sorry is needed. I don't know why but I've been angry all day regarding this particular thread and I can't put my finger on why.

Ah, good. Sometimes I get so elliptical that even I forget what I started out trying to say! Glad to know it came through.

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RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by Causal:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I read your earlier post and I got that. You were one of the few that believed in the miracles, so no sorry is needed. I don't know why but I've been angry all day regarding this particular thread and I can't put my finger on why.

Ah, good. Sometimes I get so elliptical that even I forget what I started out trying to say! Glad to know it came through.

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- Grand High Poobah of the Mythical Land of Iowa, and Keeper of State Secrets
- Captain, FFF.net Grammar Police`

Your problem is that you are too analytical, and you end up missing the small things. I'm guilty of this also.

-River

CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:25 AM

Mea culpa--and no denying. That's also why I miss emotional cues that seem obvious to other people. I'm always trying to dissect things; trouble is, sometimes things just are what they seem to be.

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TRAVELER

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:25 AM

For me the fact that we exist at all is a miracle. So why not others. It is hard to beleave the Bible, at least for me, because it has been edited so many times through the centuries that the original is buried under other's misconceptions. I do have a a book called "The Book of J" that scholars believe to be the nearest thing to the original First Book of the Hebrew Faith. I found it at Half Price Books of all places. But It is very enlighting as to what some believe is the true sense of what God is all about. It shows that God is very human. So that statement "in his likeness" is very real when you witness the emotions and the behavior that God has according to this edition.

On a final note. Who says miracles aren't happening today. There are some people out there that see them where others are blind to them.

Traveler

RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:30 AM

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Originally posted by Causal:
Mea culpa--and no denying. That's also why I miss emotional cues that seem obvious to other people. I'm always trying to dissect things; trouble is, sometimes things just are what they seem to be.

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- Grand High Poobah of the Mythical Land of Iowa, and Keeper of State Secrets
- Captain, FFF.net Grammar Police

What I have always liked about you is that you are always willing to see the other side. You take the long path, but in the end you always arrive at the right question, and the right answer. Don't stop being you even if you piss off other people.

-River

RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:31 AM

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Originally posted by traveler:
For me the fact that we exist at all is a miracle. So why not others. It is hard to beleave the Bible, at least for me, because it has been edited so many times through the centuries that the original is buried under other's misconceptions. I do have a a book called "The Book of J" that scholars believe to be the nearest thing to the original First Book of the Hebrew Faith. I found it at Half Price Books of all places. But It is very enlighting as to what some believe is the true sense of what God is all about. It shows that God is very human. So that statement "in his likeness" is very real when you witness the emotions and the behavior that God has according to this edition.

On a final note. Who says miracles aren't happening today. There are some people out there that see them where others are blind to them.

Traveler

I'm one of the blind because I can't see it.

-River

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:14 AM

It’s not really a question of not believing in miracles as much as it is in choosing the words that I use so as to not to commit to something that I can’t provide adequate support for. And I can’t tell you that Jesus walked on water, I can only tell you that this is what the Bible says. Now if I told you that I believed that Jesus walked on water, would that really answer your question? Would that really provide you the "truth" you seek? I can believe just about anything and I can tell you just about anything, but that I believe a thing will not make it real to you. The only thing I can tell you is what I’ve already told you. That 2000 or so years ago in Judea, something happened concerning a man named Jesus that inspired people to begin believing in him such that today a full one third of the entire world, over two billion people, are followers of that man. I can’t perform a miracle and I can’t direct you to anyone who can, but I can tell you that my study of physics has proven without question to me that there is far more in heaven and earth then we can dream of. Now I know what all of this means to me, but you’ll have to decide what it means to you, because unfortunately, the extent of the answer that I can provide you will always fall short of proof.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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