Do You Believe the Miracles in the Bible Really Happened?
POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Friday, May 25, 2007 06:02
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We’ve heard it all before: Jesus walking on water. Jesus Feeding 5.000 people with a few loaves of bread. Jesus turning water into wine, or healing of the blind, the lame, the sick, and people who were suffering from some mental sickness or demon possession. . We’ve also heard stories that Jesus could actually control the weather, and even make a plant or tree die just by telling it to do so. We also read of stories where in one case Jesus actually brought someone back from the dead, and in another case Jesus himself rose from the dead.
My question to all of you is do you believe this? Is it possible for all of these things to have taken place? If it were possible how come we never get to see things like this? Wouldn’t science have figured out how these things were done by now if they were possible? Did the people who wrote the Bible make this up? If they did why?
My secondary question for you is: In your life right now. What would a miracle look like for you?
This thread is directed at the people who do believe, or have an interest in the Christian Bible. I want to also make this very clear. I am not a Christian. I am learning about the religions that existed before Christianity, but I'm curious about some aspects of Christianity. Serious posters please! No name bashing, no putting people down for their beliefs, and no off-topic maneuvers. If you feel that you need to take things off topic feel free to create a thread in another section. This thread is for people who are interested in this sort of topic.
I’ll start.
I don’t believe in miracles. I’m not saying this to say that miracles don’t exist; I’ve just never seen one. I say this because I’ve never experienced one myself, nor in anyone one I know. If I were to fall off a 60 story building and survived, I might call that a miracle. I’ve been reading the bible, specifically the books with Jesus in it. I read about all of these miracles, and I’m not certain what to make of them. Someone felt strongly enough about them to add them to the bible, but you would think that if events like those happened in the time of Jesus, they would have periodically happened in other times…even in our modern times.
What do you think?
-River
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O rot, you had to go and throw in 'believe in the Christian Bible'; so I don't well qualify.
I'll just have to read along this time.
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I believe in the same God as Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. I come from the line of Noah, descendant of the tribe of Japhet. Even though I was abducted by ETs how do I know this they said the words "spank the gringo" in spanish thats how I knew they where aliens. Yes I eat pork. In Matthew 23 the builders rejected the capstone. This is the symbol of the late JC coming back to save me from the space midgets. That is why the Great Pyramid has no point. I believe the Holy Bible is a guide book of life. My only issue with Baby Jesus is that I do agree with everything except turn the other cheek and love your enemy then were not on the same page. That is why I follow Barabas. Kill the Romans Kill the Romans.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Of course i do. Its called Faith.
Scorpion:
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Originally posted by Tinadoll:
Of course i do. Its called Faith.
Why do you think we don't get to see stuff like what happened during Jesus's time today in this modern age? I would imagine people seeing other people being healed of their problems like blindness, or retardation, or cancer in this modern day by a person who had a strong faith, and a complete belief in God as a major draw to joiningg the Christian church and worshiping that God. Why did that stuff only happen in the past? Why not have it happen now? Could it be that back then people believed much deeper than now? Or was it all just made up?
-River
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Double Post.
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See, asking questions like this and saying only devout believers should answer is going to get you a scewed opinion. Believers are going to believe. They won't have an opinion on why someone would make such things up, and only very few see it as fables or learning tools rather than literal fact. I've known a few Christians who say "I think the lessons of the bible are true, but all those stories didn't literally happen" but most of them take it as fact. Which, no offense intended, it isn't.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
See, asking questions like this and saying only devout believers should answer is going to get you a acewed opinion. Believers are going to believe. They won't have an opinion on why someone would make such things up, and only very few see it as fables or learning tools rather than literal fact. I've known a few Christians who say "I think the lessons of the bible are true, but all those stories didn't literally happen" but most of them take it as fact. Which, no offense intended, it isn't.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
Thank you for responding PhoenixRose. Good point. Maybe I should change something in my opening post.
-River
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I do not believe that the occurances were miracles. I do believe that Jesus was most likely smarter than the average citizen for his time. Did he cure those with mental illnesses or blindness, I don't know, I do think that at least some of the people he supposedly cured had temperary conditions.
That said, I lost my Faith/Belief in God as discribed in the Bible, in 2001 in a similar fashion to Mal. I'm now a Taoist/Buddhist. However, I do believe that some of the stories in the Bible, are good guidelines to live by, however, I don't think that slipping up a bit will land you/me in The Hot Place.
Fe'nos Tol
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Self appointed Forsaken! Been on the list for a while now!
98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.
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Originally posted by jossisagod:
I do not believe that the occurances were miracles. I do believe that Jesus was most likely smarter than the average citizen for his time. Did he cure those with mental illnesses or blindness, I don't know, I do think that at least some of the people he supposedly cured had temperary conditions.
That said, I lost my Faith/Belief in God as discribed in the Bible, in 2001 in a similar fashion to Mal. I'm now a Taoist/Buddhist. However, I do believe that some of the stories in the Bible, are good guidelines to live by, however, I don't think that slipping up a bit will land you/me in The Hot Place.
Fe'nos Tol
JOSSIS(Most Definitely)AGOD
98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.
"Look at me, I'm STUPID!" The Doctor.
I might agree with you but I think "something" happened. I could understand the writers mentioning one or two things regarding miracles, but they sort of go on, and on about it. Something very strange went on during that period in history that was different from any other time in history I suspect.
-River
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