Word on Firefly from Joss himself

POSTED BY: Sojourner
UPDATED: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:35
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CHRISTHECYNIC

Monday, May 14, 2007 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
ChrisTheCynic (ironic name!) --

Wanna know why I have that name? Habit.

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I don't know if your post was directed at me, wholly or partially, but either way, I wanted to say that I'm not trying to depress anyone.

It wasn;t and I wasn't saying you were.

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I'm not saying it's not worth the effort; even if we don't accomplish anything, it would still be worth the effort.

Amen.

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That said, I think the more we know about the reality of the situation, the better.

I agree.

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Knowing who owns what with regards to our beloved 'Verse helps us better focus our efforts. ...

I wasn't talking about the rights discussion, and for the record I agree with you.

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I don't think being disconnected from reality does us any good. Knowing who owns the IP, who's attention we would need to get, which pocket to put the money in, etc, can only help our cause. I believe we can and will see more of the 'Verse in one form or another.

What I'm talking about is that there are some, indeed some here, who will say that your last line is deluded, and that there is literally no hope. There's a difference between accepting that our chances suck and resigning ourselves to failure because our chances suck. You aren't doing that so my post was not about you.

I don't advocate living in a fantasy world of any kind. (Though it should be pointed out that there isn't a human being on this earth who doesn't. No one lives totally in touch with reality. It has been found that the people most in touch with reality are the clinically depressed, apparently part of being depressed is being unable to construct the kind of fantasy world normal human beings live in.)

I think you should know the truth, and accept the truth. It's what some people do after that that I disagree with.

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What I was talking about with depressing people (which was not addressed at you) is that at some point either there will be more Firefly, or there will be something that undeniably proves that there will never be more (e.g. Joss giving up/dying.) If the second happens it will undoubtedly be unpleasant.

What's the best way to make something hurt the most? Well it isn't to make it as unpleasant as possible, if you do that a person's defense mechanisms kick in and it makes them feel less bad and for a shorter time than something less unpleasant.

The best way to make some as depressed as possible and for as long as possible about an unpleasant event is to make it so that it doesn't activate the person's defense mechanisms. It has to pass under a certain threshold.

So if you knew a rabid sports fan's and you wanted them to suffer if their team lost what do you do? Well rabid fans are so invested that a loss is enough to trigger their defenses, if you want them to suffer you've got to make it so that doesn't happen. Too increase the suffering you actually have to lessen the blow. One way to do that is to convince them their team will loose, an expected loss is less of a blow than a normal one. If the expected loss doesn't trigger their defenses they'll suffer more and longer than they would have had they not expected to loose.

That's the way human beings work.

My point is that all of us here are smart enough to know this, even if we haven't all read the research supporting it. So maybe, knowing this, people who are so sure that one day we'll know Firefly is dead forever shouldn't be doing everything in their power to make that more painful should they be proven right.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:34 AM

hmph.... this is the reason I don't come here as often. I feel I've lost my place here. Oh well. Nay Say away.

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RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:50 AM

Your place?!?

Is there a pecking order here?

-River

DARKFLY

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:04 AM

thanks for the link, haven't read it before

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ZZETTA13

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:15 AM

First of all I don't think that anyone here has been called a non-browncoat or anti-browncoat or anything like that. Secondly I also believe that no one on the thread has said that you can't voice your opinion whatever it is.

It's pretty simple to me. I think the beginning post at the top was put there as something positive. It was then attacked by the nay-sayers. Everyone here has a choice. You can either feel positive that there will be more FF/BDM or you can look at that differently. I choose to view every scrap of new info posted here in a good light. Thats my choice. Your choice is up to you. Till Firefly returns or we get a BDSequel I hold.

Z

FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:31 AM

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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
hmph.... this is the reason I don't come here as often. I feel I've lost my place here. Oh well. Nay Say away.

MistressSahara,

There's been a spate of "opinion saying" lately that is frankly removing some good feelings from the board.

I hope you will feel more welcome when I say that you and your opinions ( and your shiny Heroes knowledge! ) are much beloved here and I hope you will not stay away. I would hate that.

The board is a place to come to for fun, discussion and friendship. Some folks take the discussion part more seriously than they do the friendship part, but not me, so please stay and discuss good stuff with me.

Besides who's gonna keep me filled in on all the new Heroes stuff I need to know.

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Originally posted by River6213:
Your place?!?

Is there a pecking order here?

-River

I got the impression she meant her home feeling place, River. That feeling of being within a family. I for one love that feeling here and have always hoped even thru trying times that you've felt some of that too. I know I have felt it toward you.

There have been a lot of posts on this board lately that have made some folks feel outside of that. Every time there's stress like that, there are folks who leave the active fandom. And right now we need that active fandom with the SE coming. out.

Most of all it's just nice that we have each other. Kindness is hard to come by in the world and the little bit we have here is special.

To join us go here: http://www.serenitymovie.org/browncoats/forums/index.php?showtopic=870
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SNAKEBLOKE

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:30 PM

Okey dokey well it seems clear then that i have misheard/interpreted something.

i still am blindfully hopefull that Firefly will return. It's fair enough that Joss doesn't want any more failures but as i am sure i love kaylee , i am sure that you cannot stop the signal :P

it will return, as there are 3 parts to my entertainment that i NEED to live EVE Online:Battlestar Galactica: and Firefly...one of them is AWOL, and im gonna hunt them down :)

..anyways the MMO will be great :)

FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:38 PM

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i still am blindfully hopefull that Firefly will return.

Inspite of my realistic outlook Snakebloke, I too wish for more Firefly. I'll never stop wishing for more Firefly.

*sigh*

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SNAKEBLOKE

Friday, May 18, 2007 10:35 AM

*sigh* i know i know.....anyways thats me done, now im off to play EVE

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