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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:50 PM

You can now buy toothpaste with megadoses to Fluoride, the most-electronegative element on the periodic table, and the cancer-causing active ingredient in Prozac. Presumably these are manufactured in Communist China, which has no health standards, and murders all children who are 2nd-born.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_dollar_stores.htm

Fluoride was added to water at Nazi and Commie death camps, the keep the slaves from wanting to escape, or kill their kidnappers. This deadly scam was first targeted at Africa, which is already being culled by United Nations Corporation and Jew Bill Gates' "vaccination" sterilization and HIV-injection program.
www.aidsbiowar.com
www.boydgraves.com

Now you can buy antifreeze in your toothpaste, and your meds, direct from Communist China, as CNN confessed on TV today:

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From China to Panama, a Trail of Poisoned Medicine

By Walt Bogdanich and Jake Hooker
The New York Times
Sunday 06 May 2007

The kidneys fail first. Then the central nervous system begins to misfire. Paralysis spreads, making breathing difficult, then often impossible without assistance. In the end, most victims die.

Many of them are children, poisoned at the hands of their unsuspecting parents.

The syrupy poison, diethylene glycol, is an indispensable part of the modern world, an industrial solvent and prime ingredient in some antifreeze.

It is also a killer. And the deaths, if not intentional, are often no accident.

Over the years, the poison has been loaded into all varieties of medicine - cough syrup, fever medication, injectable drugs - a result of counterfeiters who profit by substituting the sweet-tasting solvent for a safe, more expensive syrup, usually glycerin, commonly used in drugs food, toothpaste and other products.

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http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/315



And now pigs in Commie China are dying by the millions, after staggering around with blood gushing out of all orifices. Enjoy your bacon MacSandwich...

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Concerns raised on China's global health disclosures

International Herald Tribune
May 7, 2007

The international and Hong Kong authorities said Monday that they had received little information from mainland Chinese officials about a mysterious ailment killing pigs in southeastern China or about Chinese wheat gluten contaminated with plastic scrap, raising questions again about whether Beijing is willing to share data on global health issues.

State-controlled media in China have carried a few reports on the wheat gluten problem but almost nothing on the pig deaths.

Hong Kong media were full of lurid accounts Monday of pigs staggering around with blood pouring from their bodies in Gaoyao and neighboring Yunfu, both in Guangdong Province. Apple, a daily newspaper here, said that up to 80 percent of the pigs had died in the area, that peasants were engaged in panic selling of ailing animals at deep discounts and that pig carcasses were floating down the river.

www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/07/news/pigs.php



Are the ChiComs planning to monopolize the casket market?

Fox News will never report on this, since its Jewish owner, Sir Rupert Murdock Autralian Knight of the British Empire, lives in Communist China with his wife who is a citizen of Commie China, and she is a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. So the Communist Chinese government is legally half owner of Fox News, since individual ownership of property is not allowed under the Communist Manifesto (written in London England by Masonic Jew Karl Marx). By marriage, Sir Rupert is a member of the Communist Party in Communist China.

Murdock's wife attended Yale University, where my sister ran the Chinese student program, commuting to China. I no longer speak to my sister, the trial lawyer who never won a case, when employed by the government as a "public defender". Constitutional Rights are apparently not taught at Yale nor in law schools.

Of course, Commie China has a long history of running cannib

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RUE
Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:56 PM

MalBadInLatin

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N62/fda.62w.html

The Washington Post

Kessler said he was stepping down voluntarily after six years as commissioner because he had accomplished his major goals: "We did what we set out to do," he said.

Yet it had become clear to FDA observers that Kessler had become a major target of the anti-regulatory mood in Washington.

Attacked as a glaring example of the overprotective "nanny state," Kessler's FDA has been a target of sweeping regulatory reform efforts.

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Kessler (Sratching head) was in the mid 90's right? He showed promise at first, but the lazy, useless, ignorant, smart ass, overpaid federal workers made his reforms difficult.
And you can't change that by gettn' all bendy.



Actually, it was the lazy over paid (also corrupt and conniving) repubican members of Congress who wanted to gut the FDA - and did. Mebee you should change your tag to 'never let facts get in the way of an agenda'.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 11:18 PM

"Mebee you should change your tag to 'never let facts get in the way of an agenda'."


The bitch is back.........

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Actually, it was the lazy over paid (also corrupt and conniving) repubican members of Congress who wanted to gut the FDA - and did. Mebee you should change your tag to 'never let facts get in the way of an agenda'.



Happy!

And you can't change that by gettn' all bendy.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 12:40 AM

Hmmmmm, do you see what you started.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 1:49 AM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Hmmmmm, do you see what you started.



Yup, I surely do.


A. Chrisisalways funny - well it was!

B. I was a federal employee and was neither overpaid nor lazy. I think you will find that the overpaid and lazy people are the ones appointed by the "current administration". New ones every 4 years or so.

C. Some of us who are the working poor, have disease and have lousy healthcare would LOVE for someone to figure out that I can't actually PAY $700 a month for my meds. It is either feed the kids or take the meds. Until then, they can continue to increase the prices and I will just go on disability and live off all of your(meaning society's) tax dollars.

eta: I really, really miss the Navy. Free meds, no co-pay, trully the cadilac of healthcare!






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KJW
Wednesday, May 9, 2007 12:16 PM

I know a number of federal, state, and local employees. My wife works for a non-partisan office in Congress and I have friends from law school who work for the FDA, military, state attorney, and public defender offices at all levels of government. These people get paid a lot less than they would in private practice, work very long hours, and do it because they are patriotic individuals. My wife has had to stay at work overnight for weeks at a time when things are busy, but she is proud to be one of the faceless bureaucrats who make our government work. If you want to bemoan governmental policies fine, but realize that federal employees (which includes the military) are working very hard in service to this country.

But it is even harded because of policies. The current administration has hobbled regulatory agencies from the FDA to the EPA with tremendous cutbacks in funding and limitations in their scope. Focus on that and not the federal employees, because anyone whinning about federal employees as being over paid and lazy have no clue what they are talking about.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by KJW:
I know a number of federal, state, and local employees. My wife works for a non-partisan office in Congress and I have friends from law school who work for the FDA, military, state attorney, and public defender offices at all levels of government. These people get paid a lot less than they would in private practice, work very long hours, and do it because they are patriotic individuals.



I apologize for my rash statement which gave the impression that all gov't workers are lazy etc. I experience frustration with medicare (lazy unionized idiots) on a daily basis and I was on a rant, I am sorry for any offense related to my going too far.

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My wife has had to stay at work overnight for weeks at a time when things are busy, but she is proud to be one of the faceless bureaucrats who make our government work. If you want to bemoan governmental policies fine, but realize that federal employees (which includes the military) are working very hard in service to this country.


No fair mentioning the military...I didn't...and they are NOT unionized, and you're right, they do work exceptionally hard

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But it is even harded because of policies. The current administration has hobbled regulatory agencies from the FDA to the EPA with tremendous cutbacks in funding and limitations in their scope. Focus on that and not the federal employees, because anyone whinning about federal employees as being over paid and lazy have no clue what they are talking about.


The point I didn't make very well is how I have observed a consistant lack of quality work from medicare employees. I don't mean to bad mouth the EPA, your friends from law school, your wife, and the others you pointed out. Once again, I violated my own code by letting the emotions I had that day cloud my judgement, that was very republican-like. Anyway...I have relatives who work for the State of California. The fact is, they have way better benefits than private industry usually offers, way more days off per year, can't be fired (cuz of the union), and that's why everyone wants to work for the state. They do not at all resemble your "proud to be one of the faceless bureaucrats who make our government work" folks

You can take me apart all you want for my unwisely chosen words, but logic would tell us that the truth lies somewhere between your rosey characterization of unionized federal employees, and my demonization of SOME of them

And you can't change that by gettn' all bendy.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 3:25 PM

KANEMAN and PIRATENEWS, the webs very own Pinky and The Brain. I'll let you all decide which one is which.

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KJW
Wednesday, May 9, 2007 4:58 PM

You know what the problem is? Its the same in the private and public sectors and that is the manager-divide. We have all seen it, how a good manager can make everyone more effective and a poor manager can make everyone less effective. I have been an employee and a manager and can say that while there are certainly problem employees...the bigger problem is with poor managers. A good manager can work with anything, a bad manager can drive a business or agency to the ground even if it has the best employees.

Unions aren't the problem. Legally, unions are pretty weak and have been since the 80s, but they provide employees with a voice and set up a situation where the employer and employee haggle over working conditions. Unions provide a more experienced and healthy workforce and no competent employer is going to give unions any concessions that will undermine the company. Unions don't close factories, unions don't cause drops in profits, incompetence by management causes that. A good manager just deals with the union, a bad manager blames his failures on the union.

Seriously, has anyone here had consistently good managers? I doubt it, I sure haven't. Mind you I have had a few brilliant managers, but the number of idiots is about the same and most fall in the middle. You solve this problem and you solve a lot of problems.

How do you do it? Education, training, competent oversight, plenty of support (mentoring programs), instilling a sense of personal responsibility, and creating good working conditions (of which unions can be quite helpful).

Now if a government agency is out of favor with the current administration (such as Medicare, VA, EPA, FDA, and the like with the Bush administration) or the current administration lacks quality leadership then this is just not going to happen. The same is true of businesses.

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