Star Trek: Nemisis...? Another Trek discussion thread
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 21:34
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Did they go out on an okay note, or a worse one than they started out on, cinematically speaking?
Curious red shirt Chrisisall
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I hated Nemesis with a passion..it was worse than Star-Trek 5.
The only thing I liked was Troy & Riker getting married..it was about time!Otherwise it was painful experience to watch.
I loved Generations though..it was well done in every way..it stayed true to the story & the characters I had grown to love.
I also loved first Contact..it was one of the best Trek movies ever..
So Chrisisall..what's your take ?
And how've you been ? 
Bryce
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The only thing I knew how to do was to keep on keepin' on like a bird that flew,tangled up in blue.
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Quote:That was the highlight of the film for me. Also, it looked nice. But it was so devoid of real Trek spirit IMO...I did like 5 better, now that you mention it. And I liked Insurrection WAAAAY better.
Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
The only thing I liked was Troy & Riker getting married..it was about time!
Been cool, plowin' through my new Buffy slim sets...
Geeky Chrisisall
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Ohh Buffy ! Shiny
Is it your first time seing it or are you re-watching the series ?
I am & now in the middle of Angel season 4 ..but that's for another thread 
I completely forgot about Insurrection..I liked it..but thought it was kind of slow compared to the first 2 Next Gen movies..and also there was the matter of that pesky WAR with the Dominion during that time frame..I would've thought the Enterprise would be front & center for that instead of dealing with some remote planet's troubles....
Bryce
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The only thing I knew how to do was to keep on keepin' on like a bird that flew,tangled up in blue.
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Quote:First time w/the slim sets; seen it all before with the fold outs.
Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
Ohh Buffy ! ShinyIs it your first time seing it or are you re-watching the series ?
I am & now in the middle of Angel season 4 ..but that's for another thread
I completely forgot about Insurrection..I liked it..but thought it was kind of slow compared to the first 2 Next Gen movies..
Never saw Angel 3 or 4 though...
I really loved Insurrection; I thought it was a perfect episode- though somewhat smallish for a theatrical motion picture.
Buffymania Chrisisall
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I thnnk that was it exactly ! It just wans't an intense enough story for a whole movie..but it would have made a great episode !
Bryce
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Personally, I loved Nemesis. The Picard/Shinzon free-will/fate dynamic is the very core of what Star Trek means.
Granted, there were a few narrative flubs (Worf's return to the Enterprise, Data's one-person transporter, Wesley's deleted presence at the wedding), but the novels reliably fixed most of them.
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Quote:Did you think it was better than Generations? Did you like it better than First Contact?
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Personally, I loved Nemesis. The Picard/Shinzon free-will/fate dynamic is the very core of what Star Trek means.
And doesn't B4 contradict NG's final ep?
Tell me more Chrisisall
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I hated Nemesis. Terrible, lazy re-hash of Wrath of Khan.
Here's a funny site that pretty much sums up every idiodic decision in that film:
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Nemesis/Pictorial-1.html
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:
Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
I hated Nemesis with a passion..it was worse than Star-Trek 5.
The only thing I liked was Troy & Riker getting married..it was about time!Otherwise it was painful experience to watch.
I loved Generations though..it was well done in every way..it stayed true to the story & the characters I had grown to love.
I also loved first Contact..it was one of the best Trek movies ever..
I agree on all points.
What i hated most of all about Nemesis is that they killed of Data and replaced him with a sad sorry android named B4 whom they found strewn on a scarsly inhabited planet. What a plothole!!

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