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Double thread! Cat takeover!!!

POSTED BY: Anduine
UPDATED: Thursday, May 17, 2007 00:11
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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:20 AM

I've read quite a few posts about the futility of trying to get Fox or another network to resurrect the series. All I can say is sad.

While there have been many serious and praiseworthy attempts at this, nothing has met with any success to date. Too many of us are content to piss and moan in our apathy and settle for another defeat from 'the man' or coporate imbeciles who feel qualified to make choices for us.

I think (and maybe in my ignorance) that what's needed here is a catalyst of some nature to organise a credible and effective campaign.

Underdogs that we are, seriously, so what if we meet with defeat. Again and again. It's far better than wallowing in self pity.

Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.

It took years of efforts by the fans of Star Trek until we saw vindication.

For starters networks dont listen to fans...they listen to advertisers. Money talks.

If there are enough people interested here and over at other forums then... I wonder how serious Fox would be after hearing from several of it's large advertisers that there are thousands of fans willing to boycott Fox's advertisers to get our point across.

And if fans are organised enough. What would happen if in guerilla type fashion a one month period was used to not buy any product from said advertisers? How quickly do you think they would let the network know? I've worked in communications for a fortune 100 company and I can tell you from personal experience how sensitive those companies are to public opinion.

The keyword here is to organise. And one place it can start is right here. So the real question is how do we start? It will take time. It will take logistics. It will take building a group of people from all talents, which should be here and readily available, unless cynicism has prevailed. If the show is worth it, than it's worth winning, but it's also worth defeat. But at least we can make a noise that will cause a few to tremble.

I have some thoughts, but more importantly I also have some ammunition. As in the contact info for all the major advertisers on Fox. If this post get's enough of a reply or comment...then...let's take the next step and initially figure out a way to use what we have and logically plan out the attack.

Or. We can always sit around and complain.
thanks for listening,
Anduine





Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt



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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:34 AM

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Originally posted by Anduine:
I've read quite a few posts about the futility of trying to get Fox or another network to resurrect the series. All I can say is sad.

While there have been many serious and praiseworthy attempts at this, nothing has met with any success to date. Too many of us are content to piss and moan in our apathy and settle for another defeat from 'the man' or coporate imbeciles who feel qualified to make choices for us.

I think (and maybe in my ignorance) that what's needed here is a catalyst of some nature to organise a credible and effective campaign.

Underdogs that we are, seriously, so what if we meet with defeat. Again and again. It's far better than wallowing in self pity.

Ireland didn't win it's freedom (and still hasnt totally) in one battle.

It took years of efforts by the fans of Star Trek until we saw vindication.

For starters networks dont listen to fans...they listen to advertisers. Money talks.

If there are enough people interested here and over at other forums then... I wonder how serious Fox would be after hearing from several of it's large advertisers that there are thousands of fans willing to boycott Fox's advertisers to get our point across.

And if fans are organised enough. What would happen if in guerilla type fashion a one month period was used to not buy any product from said advertisers? How quickly do you think they would let the network know? I've worked in communications for a fortune 100 company and I can tell you from personal experience how sensitive those companies are to public opinion.

The keyword here is to organise. And one place it can start is right here. So the real question is how do we start? It will take time. It will take logistics. It will take building a group of people from all talents, which should be here and readily available, unless cynicism has prevailed. If the show is worth it, than it's worth winning, but it's also worth defeat. But at least we can make a noise that will cause a few to tremble.

I have some thoughts, but more importantly I also have some ammunition. As in the contact info for all the major advertisers on Fox. If this post get's enough of a reply or comment...then...let's take the next step and initially figure out a way to use what we have and logically plan out the attack.

Or. We can always sit around and complain.
thanks for listening,
Anduine





Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
Theodore Roosevelt







Umm dude, I ain't wallowing in self-pity, and I think that the old timers did a lot to effect the landscape. There was, after all, a movie.


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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:36 AM

Hmmmm, a double thread.
I could address and argue much of what's been said in this double thread, or I could post some kittehs.




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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:37 AM

cats is nice.

Why is the rum always gone?

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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:44 AM




Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:47 AM

You're too right!

But why stop at a movie...

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Monday, May 7, 2007 3:51 AM




Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Monday, May 7, 2007 4:08 AM



Deb


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Monday, May 7, 2007 5:28 PM


as an old timer...



"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Monday, May 7, 2007 5:30 PM

Were are you getting all these new cats?!?!? LOL


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