Serenity Casting (Major Spoilers) No Book!

POSTED BY: outlander
UPDATED: Friday, March 26, 2004 04:35
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Originally posted by outlander:
Firstly, I think we should leave the decision to include or not include Book up to Joss Wheddon.

I hate to be the one to say it but I think Book could be a redundant character in the movie. Having to explain why Book is on the ship might take valuable time away from the more important parts of the story and If Joss includes him in the movie he may have nothing to do. To remove Book from the movie might have been a tough choice for Joss to make, but it may be the right choice.

Having said all that Joss may bring him back in a second movie or series, or it might be as simple as Ron Glass not have signed his contract yet.

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I think Id have to agree with most of this as great a character as book is the new audience that they are trying to attract to the film may have a problem understanding why theres a preacher on the ship. Everyone else has jobs apart from river who the film appears to be about so her story will obviusly be explained. Id still prefer to see book in the film but it would be a shame if he had nothing to do. If they arent planning on having book in the film I think they should still have try to have him in at least one scene just talking to mal or something. It would be a nice scene for the fans and would make it easier to bring the character back for a sequel or the series.

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Would you want Book in the movie even if the role had to be recast? Maybe Ron Glass just isn't available for whatever reason, and Joss would prefer to leave him out rather than replace him.

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Originally posted by Butterfly043:
Thanks for the explanation. Appreciated.

Have to say one thing on the Mingo/Fanty twins - they're described as lower class British. As a working class member of the British public I'd like to say there's no such thing as lower class. There is upper, middle and working class. I find 'lower class' slightly insulting!!

As John Lennon once said "A working class hero is something to be."

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That reminds me of the old 2 Ronnies sketch with John Cleese. Three men are standing in a row.

UC (John Cleese)I am upper class.
MC (Ronnie Barker) I am middle class, I look up to him and down on him.
WC (Ronnie Corbett) I know my place.

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Originally posted by Delia:
Would you want Book in the movie even if the role had to be recast? Maybe Ron Glass just isn't available for whatever reason, and Joss would prefer to leave him out rather than replace him.

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I would rather the character be left out rather than be recast, and that goes for any of the other actors as well. Alan Tudyk seems to have been busy the past year with three different projects listed on his imdb.com profile since Firefly. However, there is nothing listed for Ron Glass since Firefly, no "announced," "in production," "post-production." Absolutely nothing. So what's up with that?




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Originally posted by epressman617:
I agree that Book should be in the film,.... but it probably isn't too late to get him in the film. Everyone please write to Universal and tell them how you feel. Let them know that Book is too important to discount completely, even if he isn't integral to the plot.... If this many people care about it this much, maybe we can do something about it.

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If Book's not in the screenplay as is (and we simply don't know), then it is too late - Joss has always stated he writes for himself, not the fans, because that's the only way to do it - you can't write a script with 10,000 opinions to meet.

Therefore, if its a case of Ron Glass not yet signed, for whatever reason, then the only option would be to shoehorn in some Book scenes, or have a "holding character" on Serenity who will be dropped for Book if he came onboard. I fear it would turn into Generations if that route was taken (seeing which of the cast will sign, then giving them a few lines before sending them out of the picture).



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Also. . .LOVE BOT? How completely NON-Joss is THAT? As far as I can tell, we've had NO appearances of robots, androids or the like in the Firefly 'verse so far. I can't picture Joss making a leap like that even WITH the urging of Universal.

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That makes it sound like a fraud to me. I'm pretty sure Joss said no Robots.

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Originally posted by SouthernMerc:
I just have to say, hogwash.
Mr. Universe. Since when does Mal depend on ANYONE outside the crew of Serenity? Useful contact? Sure. I can buy that, but the "lovebot"? That sounds a bit odd. Again, this guy is possible, but not likely.

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Based on 13 episodes? Besides, doesn't say Mal "depends" on him - rather that he is a contact of Mal's, and AFAIK, no-one on Serenity has the skill he provides.

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Dr. Mathias. Very few characters Joss has made are completely unlikable. Each one has certain qualities that, while they do not redeem them, make them enjoyable to have on-screen. Even Niska was fun to have around.

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Not sure I understand the point - how are you arriving at 'won't be enjoyable on screen' from the description?

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The second thing is, for a program to turn out psychics with MASSIVE fiddling with brain tissue, you wouldn't want just one guy who knew what was going on. You would want lots of people who were competent and able to carry on in the worst case that one is killed or kidnapped. The brain fix on River is DEFINATELY not a one-person job.

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Again, not sure how we get here from the quote, but in any event, I'd say this is exactly the sort of situation where you want as few people as possible involved - its clearly illegal, and so the less people that know the full picture, the better. And the good doctor may not want to train too many competent assistants, to ensure he could not be gotten rid of.

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Older Companion, Sheydra. Comments about Inara sound out of character. Inara could have left, but it just seems...off. Especially our favorite Companion's opinions. This is a wait and see as well, with reservations.

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Well, Inara was about to leave when the series ended. I'm guessing she would have headed off, but have come back for the season finale - either because she was needed, or needed rescuing/saving/curing. Sounds like a potential framing device.

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Dr. Caron. Not enough information. Hologram on a desolate planet? Lot of questions raised. Why would the crew be there? What message would she leave? Why would she leave it? Piques interest, but could easily be a cheap plot device of someone's (not Joss's) concocting.

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Its not clear how old the message is, nor who picks it up

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Only problem is, well, River displayed NO sypmathy toward the Independants in the flashback during the episode "Safe". She clearly was on the side of the Alliance. Not to say she couldn't have changed her mind (children do that alot), but just sounds fishy.

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Without my DVD at the moment - but it wasn't actually a political argument in Safe, and she is coming from the point of view of a 6-7 year old playing soldier - and from an education (and class) background that no doubt only subjected her to the Alliance doctrine.

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Namely, WTF are Mal and crew doing a bank heist in the FIRST place??? And Mal would have to have a DAMN pressing reason to bring this guy along.

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Robbing the bank? To quote Captain Jack Sparrow - "Pirate."

If this is accurate, why is it so off that Mal and Co would rob a bank? Could be its an Alliance bank, could be they are forced into it. Joss has a way of finding a twist on things.

It appears the young tough chases after the crew, gets on board ship somehow, and they aren't able to drop him off (possibly because they are making a swift getaway.

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But where are the OTHER Alliance personnel? I'm assuming, of course, that if there is one Fed guarding the place, that there are more. What, does Mal gun them down and make good their escape?

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You're assuming this is the entire cast list - it isn't - its the main speaking parts only. There may also be other roles that will be cast at a later date (depending on the shooting schedule)

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In conclusion, this smells fishy. Like three-day-dead fish. Too many inconsistan

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