Anti FOX comments and subjects

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UPDATED: Monday, March 15, 2004 01:05
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KARENKAY99

Sunday, March 14, 2004 4:52 AM

i haven't read all heinlein, just a few. i got my daughter to read stranger and harsh mistress and had to reread myself. it had been years. i also read time enough for love but had forgotten it till i looked through your site. i will have to find a copy and reread that as well. i never read glory road, guess i have to look for that one too.
also, very much enjoyed your review of firefly. no need to be afraid of the commentaries though. i have seen all and it's really moving to see the folks involved enjoyed making as much as i enjoyed watching. joss was tightliped about spilling any beans because he really wanted to be able to tell the story later and didn't want to ruin it.

BUTTERFLY043

Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:03 AM

Yep it's the Fox tv company peeps who want a wrist slapping as opposed to the movie guys at 20th Century Fox.

We ain't got the DVD's here yet but we get 'em in April I think and I'll be sure to grab me a copy when it hits the stores!

Can't believe this run of rotten luck we've had though. Cancellation of Firefly; Buffy finishes; Angel very possibly cancelled. I need a lie down!

MLSVRKSGN

Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:22 AM

No kidding - it's enough to make a girl weep.
I keep trying to cheer myself up (and justify my cable subscription) with thoughts like; 'any day now, stargate will get better', or 'hey, that Battlestar Galactica remake looked good in miniseries form, we can hope for the best in the show, cant we?'

MLSVRKSGN

Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:27 AM

Aaaaaaah, Heinlein fans. Is there an emoticon for 'basking in the warm, golden glow of kindred spirits'?
One quick question, if it's not too intrusive - how old is your daughter? The spouse and I are arguing about how old a kid should be at first reading of Heinlein's adult novels. I started on them when VERY young, and I suspect it made my dating years a bit more interesting that strictly necessary.

SAMURAIX47

Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:41 AM

Count me in as a Heinlein fan too... read all of his except for his new first novel that they just published... I share the same birthday as Manny in Moon is a Harsh Mistress... I love to quote Laz Long... Here's one that fits very well with Firefly.

"Get a shot of fast. This upsets him long enough to let you make your second shot perfect."

Jaymes

KARENKAY99

Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:09 PM

i read heinlein in high school. daughter read heinlein books in her 20's, (she's 25 now, hmnnn, that makes me ... ah ... old?) not because i thought they would be too much for her but because kids don't realize moms have brains till they get older so it took that long for her to want to read anything i promoted. she made me read her fav book Johnny Tremain and i made her read stranger. it took off from there. i just recently had her read to kill a mockingbird. she thought it was predictable. anyway she is avid reader (way more than me) so i feel i did something right. all that reading fru fru bunny to her when she was little paid off. she makes me proud!!

ECGORDON

Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:16 PM

I first read "Stranger" when I was 17 and it blew me away, mainly because there was so much in there that I had been thinking about myself and it helped me sort out some of my own feelings. Most of his fans probably began with his juvenile novels, or more recenly because his later novels were consistently on best seller lists. My recommendation for anyone who has not read a lot of his stuff already is to wait on "For Us, the Living" because it is not that good, but does have a lot of elements he used in later stories.

My son is now 18, and a big RAH fan as well. I began reading some of them to him when he was about 6 or 7 I believe, and I think "Red Planet" was the first one because I knew he would get a kick out of Willis. He started reading them on his own just a few years after that because he is an exceptional reader. But I told him that it was best for him to wait on reading any of the later novels, and I believe he was around 14 when he first read "Stranger."

For anyone else, I think it depends on their emotional maturity, and their ability to think for themselves. As I point out in one of my articles there are quite a few of Heinlein's opinions that I disagree with, and there are some that might offend a lot of people. But, it is my opinion that a lot of that was the characters talking, not necessarily Heinlein, because he created a wide variety of characters over the years that express a wide variety of opinions.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

ECGORDON

Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:52 PM

Forgot to mention that since I wrote my Firefly piece (back in December) I have listened to all the commentaries. I still don't care for them in general, and in this case could have done without all of them, except for Joss' ramblings on "Objects in Space."

I need to go back and update that page, also need to add the movie info.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

MLSVRKSGN

Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:54 PM

O.K. , last off topic post, I promise (and I hope I figured out this 'quote' function right!).
My fav of the juvenile books was "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel". Hands down. Reading it to my seven yr old niece now, and she loves all the dialogue, too. (Go, Oscar!) Originally worried that it might be above her head, but doesnt seem to be.
By the way, a lovely site for RAH, thanks for including the link. Wonder if you're a Harlan Ellison fan as well?

Reason for edit: didnt figure out that quote bit after all. Can you believe I do tech support for a living? How embarrassing.

MLSVRKSGN

Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:11 PM

Odd, I rather liked the commentaries. Except the one for "The Message", w/c I havent listened to. The episode really moves me, and listening to someone talk all over it would just be TOO irritating.
The commentary for "Objects in Space" and
"Serenity" are particular favorites - I love the interaction between Whedon and Fillion. It reminds me just a bit of the commentaries with Kurt Russell and J. Carpenter, particularly on the "Big Trouble in Little China" disk. One gets not only tidbits re filming, but also a sense of real comraderie between the two men. Also, they're funny. And I am a sucker for funny.

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