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Heroes, Heroes, Heroes...

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JLIN

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 10:42 PM

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Don't forget, he saved her at the Home-coming event. That's where he absorbed her ability. Remember the glass shard through the back of the head, as well as being dropped from the rooftop onto a car? Ouch.

Another note; no Linderman in this last ep, only mention of the Linderman Act. Curiosity...

Rob O.

I think Leiasky was commenting on why Peter had the scar in the alternate future, because in that future's past he may not have been at the homecoming.

OK, if Peter didn't make it to homecoming and didn't save Claire, then how on earth was Claire still there 5 years into the future. There is something wrong with this timeline but the show is so awsome I'm totally willing to overlook it.

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KHYRON

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 10:47 PM

Causal:

In the current timeline Nathan knows that Sylar didn't explode and hence didn't die, so he's still a threat to Peter. Maybe Nathan made Peter disappear so that Sylar couldn't find him, and Peter's location would be secret (totally secret, not written down anywhere or known to anyone, except maybe Nathan before he lost his brain).

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CAUSAL

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 10:51 PM

Interesting...but that would require them not having any contact at all for a number of years, and I have a hard time believing that. Why might that be the case?

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KHYRON

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 10:54 PM

Maybe Nathan said something like "I contact you, never the other way around." Would obviously be difficult for both of them (emotionally), but I think they knew the risks with Sylar around.

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CAUSAL

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 11:05 PM

Well, OK, that's at least plausible. Now I can go back to enjoy the episode!

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KHYRON

Wednesday, May 2, 2007 11:06 PM

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

HEWHOKICKSALOT

Thursday, May 3, 2007 12:26 AM

Except that, sometime within their... minimalist communication, Sylar got his grubby mitts on Nathan and de-capped him, hence his new flying ability...

It's tough to be the leader of the free world.

Rob O.

PDCHARLES

Thursday, May 3, 2007 1:20 AM

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Maybe Nathan said something like "I contact you, never the other way around."

Yeah, I think this is the most likely scenario. Nathan hid him because of the election and, u know, he exploded and all.

Then over the years, after Nathan was ganked by Sylar, Peter didn't want to talk to him because of his evil decisions. Suresh sure acts surprised to see Peter at the end, like he didn't know he was alive.

As for Sylar, I think he just thought that, since it was not him, Peter died from the explosion.

...or maybe he did find out where Peter was but was afraid of him until he gets Claire’s powers.

...or He's president and that’s got be a cool day job. Maybe he just Let sleeping dogs lie.

But how did Peter get telekinetic powers if he hadn't met up with Sylar over the years at the If not the homecoming. When?

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, May 3, 2007 1:46 AM

Have to comment on some of these questions because it's been heavily discussed on 9th Wonders.

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Why do we keep seeing Issac in the flashes of NYC where Peter is going nuclear? Issac is dead. Is it Candy posing as Isaac or is it Sylar after taking Candy's power posing as Isaac? Did the writers screw up and put him in the clip before they killed him? Will Hiro go back in time to save him?

Keep in mind Peter's dreams aren't really visions of the future like Issac sees it, more interpretive. In one dream Issac is seen holding back Simone, and in another it's shown she dies in the blast. Well Issac was holding back Simone by not telling him he found Peter, and later on she died by gun shots. Both were interpretive and came true. And in the scene where she blows up you'll notice Issac is no longer in the shot, this came true as well since he's dead and won't be there for the final confrontation. And something I just realized, Nathan dies in his dream, and in the 5 year episode we know he was killed by Sylar. Will he still be on the chopping block? We won't know till it happens. You can't take his dreams as exact, because then that means Matt will show up in his cops uniform and Claire will change into her Cheerleaders outfit. And now we know Matt, HRG, and Ted are on their way to NY. From the dreams and visions it looks like things might just come to pass.

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How could Peter get the scar if he has Claire's healing ability? That made little to no sense to me.

This one is obvious, from the blast. I don't care how powerful regeneration is, when you physically implode SOME parts of you are going to not heal.

But there are those who believe we're actually seeing the Peter from fHiro's timline, the original, where Peter never saved Claire and never got her regenerative powers and so aquired the scar (maybe from a fight with Sylar, maybe not) but that makes this timline screwy because now we know Claire lived, and since Peter saved her he should not have the scar. Remember how suprised HRG was when Ando and pHiro told him they knew she was alive. No one had known, he faked her death. So if Claire is alive in this timeline, the fHiro's timeline, how could Peter have a scar? But then fHiro also revealed that by saving Claire the bomb shouldn't go off because he sucessfully killed Sylar, but we know it did by Peter's confession, so if Pete was the one who blew up, again, that would be a hell of a thing to recover from.

I feel like Austin Powers trying to understand time travel.

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Khyron:
Regarding Matt, maybe he isn't evil, maybe it's just Sylar using Eden's power on him to persuade him to do all of those things.

Ok, I mean no disrespect but I get upset when people keep making this mistake. Sylar did not, I repeat DID NOT get Eden's powers, she sacrificed herself so he couldn't get them, that's what that scene was all about, she knew she couldn't kill him so she turned the gun on herself to deny him her abilities, which is a good thing because like Candy's powers they are FAR too powerful. The on-line comic confirms this AND the writers have also (I wish I had a link to that, it may have been in the commentaries) I know people keep thinking Sylar used her voice when he was walking up to Mrs Bennet or when he confronted Peter, but that was merely an effect to show how scary he is. It may be a part of his TK, I don't know for sure but it definately isn't Eden's voice. If you want to know more I suggest you go to the NBC site and backtrack the on-line novels and find the one where HRG goes to talk with her father. (Incidentally it also explains how Sylar was back in his cell after she killed herself.)

Peter however, did aquire her powers, he just doesn't know it yet.

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The only thing I can't get over is this: if Sylar has been fooling everyone into thinking that he's Nathan, why hasn't he lured Peter into some sub-basement of the White House, clonked him on the back of the head to knock him out, then pulled the old craniotomy

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KHYRON

Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:18 AM

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Ok, I mean no disrespect but I get upset when people keep making this mistake. Sylar did not, I repeat DID NOT get Eden's powers, she sacrificed herself so he couldn't get them, that's what that scene was all about, she knew she couldn't kill him so she turned the gun on herself to deny him her abilities, which is a good thing because like Candy's powers they are FAR too powerful. The on-line comic confirms this AND the writers have also (I wish I had a link to that, it may have been in the commentaries) I know people keep thinking Sylar used her voice when he was walking up to Mrs Bennet or when he confronted Peter, but that was merely an effect to show how scary he is. It may be a part of his TK, I don't know for sure but it definately isn't Eden's voice. If you want to know more I suggest you go to the NBC site and backtrack the on-line novels and find the one where HRG goes to talk with her father. (Incidentally it also explains how Sylar was back in his cell after she killed herself.)

Alright, I didn't read the comics, I just thought the way he spoke to Isaac last week was very Eden-esque. I knew that Eden wanted to sacrifice herself so that he wouldn't get her powers, but how exactly does he get people's powers? Maybe the bits of brain on the wall were enough. But as I said, I didn't read the comics so maybe they aren't.

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And they hadn't fully discussed Sylar and the threat he may pose. [...] As far as anyone is concerned, Sylar has nothing to do with the bomb, so Nathan wouldn't need to go through hiding Peter.

They know about Sylar from a lot of sources and know how powerful he is and what he does. With Peter's power, he'd be virtually unstoppable, and that's why they feel they need to hide Peter, so that they have a better chance of saving the world from Sylar (... after it got blown up). So maybe that decision has got nothing to do with the bomb itself. Of course, that's assuming Nathan was Nathan for a while before Sylar got to him.

EDIT: But I like your idea too, that maybe it was entirely Peter's idea to go underground and Nathan didn't have anything to do with it.

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At the moment, mine too!

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