When Simon gets hit . . .
POSTED BY: Starrbaby
UPDATED: Sunday, August 19, 2007 17:05
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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Now let's get rid of Niki. Maybe I'll laugh that time. Yes, I can be sadistic.
I'm so with you on that one. Swear to god I may even do the happy dance if they off her.
As far as Simon goes it is understandable that many enjoy seeing him take a punch. After all he is smug, pretty, and a doctor. Most people would say he needs to be knocked down a few pegs every so often.
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Quote:Jubal Early seemed to think so, anyway.
Originally posted by singate:
As far as Simon goes it is understandable that many enjoy seeing him take a punch. After all he is smug, pretty, and a doctor. Most people would say he needs to be knocked down a few pegs every so often.
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I dunno. I'm the opposite. I hated seeing Simon be a punching bag in the series, mainly because Simon was the character I identify with the most. You know how all viewers project themselves onto characters that have some of the same characteristics as you do? Well, I identified with Simon a lot, thus he was my favorite character. So it kinda unsettled me when he'd get punched beat up.
One thing that I absolutely loved about Simon in the movie was that Joss toughened him up. That when he got punched, he punched back at least.
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Originally posted by DonCoat:Quote:Jubal Early seemed to think so, anyway.
Originally posted by singate:
As far as Simon goes it is understandable that many enjoy seeing him take a punch. After all he is smug, pretty, and a doctor. Most people would say he needs to be knocked down a few pegs every so often.
OH! So it's really peoples' insecurity that has them react with aggression to someone accomplished and noble?
That'd explain it. Someone sets a high standard so he needs to be "knocked down" because it makes others feel bad.
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Someone sets a high standard so he needs to be "knocked down" because it makes others feel bad.
That may be it. Actually, I think I may have figured out what the deal is with *me* getting akickout of seeing him get whacked. On a similar (yet different)plane as RR, I see alot of myself in Simon. However, I see my BAD qualities in him. I have my good qualities, and so does Simon, but they are not even similar. however, our bad qualitiles are identical.
Perhaps I'd like to beat the crap out of the uppity rich snob in me who thinks I'm smarter than everyone else.
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I just like to see him get beat because I dislike him, and he was and is an ass to Jayne and Mal.
More Simon beatings, I need a chuckle.
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Originally posted by Starrbaby:
Perhaps I'd like to beat the crap out of the uppity rich snob in me who thinks I'm smarter than everyone else.
But is Simon actually an uppity rich snob?
We know he's no longer rich and he never acts as if he is, demanding special treatment or such.
He has one moment of pretty justifiable snapping temper, which is sadly directed at the wrong person (Kaylee in "Safe") but Mal has that pretty much all the time.
The only thing I can think of that might be "uppity" is that he tends to second-guess Mal's decisions, but that is also very understandable because Simon's priotity (River) is not the same as Mal's priority (Serenity's crew), and until "Safe" he doesn't have much reason to really trust Mal.
After "Safe", Simon's second-guessing goes down quite a bit because Mal proved trustworthy. And I don't think Simon can be blamed for being upset that Mal is taking River on a job...
I don't don't see where this perceived arrogance is going on?
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Giles was always the one who got knocked out in Buffy so I think it might be Joss who thinks the educated, unemotional one should take a few knocks. Whether that’s because it shows they’re a better person for being able to accept it or not I don’t know.
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I don't don't see where this perceived arrogance is going on?
That's something neat about Joss' creations. Different Chaterers percive them differently, but the different viewers perceive them differently also.
That's not very common in TV land.
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It does appear that a large part of perception is projection.
Do you have a moment where you feel he is particularly snobby/uppity and arrogant, anyway? Because part of me is really curious to at least try and understand, since a lot of people ascribe these characteristics to both Simon and Inara, and I can't help but think it's a presumptive leap from wealth to arrogance that's not really supported by the show.
Same as the leap from Core world childhood = boring. Core world parties = stiff and no fun. Core world people = repressed, mindless and arrogant. There's a lot of black and white thinking that comes across in fanfiction and dicussion threads that surprises me.
And then I wonder what the root of that gut reaction is. It's the stillborn anthropologist mutation inside of me.
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