Anti FOX comments and subjects

POSTED BY: Darksyde
UPDATED: Monday, March 15, 2004 01:05
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DARKSYDE

Friday, March 12, 2004 3:51 PM

Hey there. Just wanted to post a quick note to remind everyone that FOX still has the TV rites to firefly and as such shouldn't be written totaly out of the picture quite yet. Universal secured the "film" rights wich is a bit different. Not happy with how things went down between the show and FOX just don't kick them to the curb for a time yet.

"That's what happens when you call the FEDS!"

BROWNCOAT1

Friday, March 12, 2004 3:57 PM

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Originally posted by Darksyde:
Hey there. Just wanted to post a quick note to remind everyone that FOX still has the TV rites to firefly and as such shouldn't be written totaly out of the picture quite yet. Universal secured the "film" rights wich is a bit different. Not happy with how things went down between the show and FOX just don't kick them to the curb for a time yet.

"That's what happens when you call the FEDS!"

Is that confirmed? The fact that Fox has the TV rights to the show? I understood it that Universal bought the rights to Firefly, which should be the show in all of its forms, not just movie rights.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

SAMURAIX47

Friday, March 12, 2004 4:10 PM

If Fox sold all the rights, universal would have been the ones selling the DVDs too... but Fox is the one selling the DVDs... Fox probably retains rights to the existing series, but not necessarily to future series... they may get a residual since they probably own the trademarks, registers and copyrights© to the original series and anything resembling those things.

Jaymes

KNIBBLET

Friday, March 12, 2004 4:22 PM

If this is true, it is a dark, dark day for both browncoats and the arts.

Rarely have I seen a greater ability to snuff creativity, mishandle talent and generally cock-up a good concept than that of Fox executives.

If there's a way to take a great series and kill it with Niska-like horrors, Fox will find that way and implement it with extreme prejudice.

Of course, if there's a way to insult the viewer's intelligence, make a random channel surfer squirm with discomfort and generally plow the name of humanity through the muck ... Fox will also find that way and implement it with extreme glee.

Shoes, socks and fuzzy pink bunny slippers, I hope you're wrong about who would own any future tv show.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

ASTRIANA

Friday, March 12, 2004 4:25 PM

Good point about not burning our bridges with FOX, just in case they do still own the TV rights.

Either way, if we look at it from another perspective, we could be thankful that FOX gave our beloved Firefly any airtime at all... Otherwise, none of us would ever have been exposed to Joss's genius vision.

Besides, all the energy that we spend berating and generally being disgruntled at FOX could be much better expended - by promoting The Movie!

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

SEVENPERCENT

Friday, March 12, 2004 4:38 PM

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Originally posted by Astriana:

Besides, all the energy that we spend berating and generally being disgruntled at FOX could be much better expended - by promoting The Movie!

I have a lot of energy- I can handle both-

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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.

BROWNCOAT1

Friday, March 12, 2004 4:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SamuraiX47:
If Fox sold all the rights, universal would have been the ones selling the DVDs too... but Fox is the one selling the DVDs... Fox probably retains rights to the existing series, but not necessarily to future series... they may get a residual since they probably own the trademarks, registers and copyrights© to the original series and anything resembling those things.

Jaymes

I think this far more likely than Fox retaining any TV rights.

I would say it is obvious that Fox distributed the DVDs (& cashed in on them in a big way) because the episodes they air belong to Fox, bought and paid for by them. This does not mean they retain the rights to any future show.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

DAVCO92

Friday, March 12, 2004 6:27 PM

Yeah, someday there could be a new tv show titled "Serenity" on Fox or a different network. Fox or no Fox, there is no reason to worry about it now since it's just a possibility for the (far) future. Everyone should just stay optimistic and be as supportive of Joss's creation as possible. We're still flyin' and that's enough.

Burn the land, boil the sea...

LASHER99

Friday, March 12, 2004 6:34 PM

I think it's entirely probable that Universal bought the rights for future licensing. I would not have thought that Fox would have sold the already produced episodes. What financial benefit would that be to Universal to justify a higher price tag to obtain the past episodes?

GHOULMAN

Friday, March 12, 2004 7:06 PM

?

... cause we should reward FOX for treating the cult TV talent of the decade like a hack? We should tr not to 'burn bridges' to the FOX wonks becuse they might give us something?

That's like loving the Nazis for providing trains.

Look - the current regime of TV executives and sponsors are working hard to bring you absolute pablim for your little baby like brains so as never to cause you to think, feel, or ever have a revelation that TV can talk to you're heart and mind!

Why do you think there are Reality Shows? Because marketing wonks can put the show together without a writer or even a real production and then just sucker some pretty people to suffer the shows premise.

Is this a sign that TV is no longer willing to tell stories? Have you noticed how movies are telling stories in episodes now? Is TV dead? Well, after this crappy winter of bad 1000 channel cable reruns and an industry unwilling to produce content beyond the lowest mique toast it's marketing assholes can think of... I'll stick to DVDs and cancel the cable conn. I encourage everyone to do the same. Boycott cable. Buy all Joss DVDs. Wait for Joss to move entirely into movies. Hopw that Tim M. and the rest follow him!

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