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Bad Firefly Review at Amazon!

POSTED BY: rklenseth
UPDATED: Thursday, November 4, 2004 18:33
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Friday, March 12, 2004 5:31 AM

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
She looked confused, then got angry. "Well, you have to be one or the other, you know."*

The worst part is: This is someone who at least cared enough to volunteer.



OMG! That is insane. Don't Republicans and Democrats realize that some people actually like to make up their own minds on important issues? (I am a moderate.)[no offense to either party]

It's true that there's only two parties with any real power, which is a total shame in my opinion.

I'm registered to vote, though w/o any particular party affiliation, but I haven't yet--I just turned 18 in June. And since I haven't bothered to learn anything about this year's political campaign, I probably won't end up voting this year.


Oh, and I don't necessarily think I'd call the the Libertarian. I dislike how the back of the DVD box set calls the government "totalitarian." This is untrue. The gov't in the Fireflyverse was modeled after the US gov't, which certainly is not totalitarian. It's just that the main characters are thieves--a lot of the work they do is illegal--of course the gov't's gonna be after them.

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Friday, March 12, 2004 6:44 AM

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Originally posted by Arawaen:
Why would the right-wing be pre-disposed towards this show? Why wouldn't the left-wing? The show had legalized prostitution, an inter-racial relationship, tolerance of same-sex couplings, equality of women in employment and on the battlefield. While not all conservatives are against these, they are hardly on the 'right-wing' platform and surely not on any extreme right stance that could be characterized as having paranoia.



Oh bless you child ,and all of you like her(sorry if yer male it just sounds like a female name), for identifying the true threat at hand... close-mindedness.

This woman, who wrote this appalingly uninsightful review, has truly chosen her side of the fence, built a brick wall and defensive perimiter and armed herself with enough ignorance to baffle a class of 2nd graders, as to what the HELL is she thinking. I can see certain points she makes, such as Mal being BAD. But that point is quickly shot down with scenes like him visiting Kaylee in the infirmary in Serenity. Or how about almost every action he takes in "the Message"? There is far more GOOD in Mal than bad. He's just unscroupulous. He just cares about the only thing he has left.. his Crew and Ship.. and nearly nothing else. Just because he's a criminal in most Governmental eyes, doesnt make him bad.. just Illegal.

An example of a Bad guy would be Niska and his torturous punishments, or Early with his accute powers of inflicting Fear and Pain on people. I hardly think that Mal falls into this category. I don't even think Jayne falls into this category.. he's just a selfish opportunist. As far as Book being counted amongst them, well i have my own thoughts about him.. and quite frankly i agree with Early.."that ain't no Shepherd".

Again.. keep those minds a rolling along the hills of contemplation kids, and bless you for your much needed ability to see beyond the static of fascism.

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You see that man hangin' out of the spaceship with the realy big gun? Now I ain't sayin' it wasn't easy to find you, but it was a little out of our way and he didn't want to come in the first place. So realy it's his will you ought to be twartin'. -Mal "Safe"

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Friday, March 12, 2004 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by InvisibleGreen:
[BIt's true that there's only two parties with any real power, which is a total shame in my opinion.

I'm registered to vote, though w/o any particular party affiliation, but I haven't yet--I just turned 18 in June. And since I haven't bothered to learn anything about this year's political campaign, I probably won't end up voting this year.



Thats good man. Don't vote if you don't know the depth of the choice before you. I believe that more important to our american "Right to Vote" is our american "Right not to Vote". As for the parties.. it's a damn shame that only 2 of them have power.. not that the party i registered for( and may have been subsequently flagged by government agencies) was the Discordian party. As of right now I may be the only member. But thats not the point. the point is I HAVE THAT GORRAMN CHOICE!!

BTW I plan to run for Pres in 2012. I'm not gonna campaign, But i'm ready for anyone who wants to query me for where i stand on any given issue. Who knows.. maybe i'll end up getting Elected and then have my votes recounted too




Ahhhh.. Curse you sudden but inevitable betrayal!!

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Friday, March 12, 2004 1:05 PM

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Originally posted by PopeBob:
...the party i registered for( and may have been subsequently flagged by government agencies) was the Discordian party. As of right now I may be the only member.



You're opposed to Accordians?

Arawaen



Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

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Friday, March 12, 2004 3:20 PM

I'm guessing that this reviewer has never had to run for her life or *actively* defend her values (if she has any). If she had done either of these things, she could not fail to identify with the impassioned valuers that are Serenity's crew.

Violence has a *context*: Mal and the others only use it in self-defense; they are never the initiators.

The "amoral parasite" presented is the Alliance. The government has left the independent man like Mal no alternative: he either has to turn outlaw or become an Alliance slave. His decision to remain independent is completely moral, given the context.



"We're just happy to be doing good works..."

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Friday, March 12, 2004 5:08 PM

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Originally posted by Wren:

I use http://movieweb.com

Just type the film name in the 'search the site' box, select dvd eggs from the drop menu next to it and hit find it.



Thanks Wren.

Dragon Lord

Summer: Jane's a girls name
Jane: Well I ain't no girl! I can prove it!
Simon: I'm trying to picture you more vulgar... but, I can't

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Friday, March 19, 2004 6:20 PM

Dear Browncoat1,
Couldn't remember if I ever said thanks. THANK YOU VER' MUCH!


lunatikat - at home with the stars (cuz flaming gas bags ARE my peeps)

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Friday, March 19, 2004 7:11 PM

Wow..don't waste the only opportunity you have to make a difference. Voting is one of the few rights we as citizens of the US have, that really means anything in regards to the Nation.

Don't mean to preach..it's just hard to see someone say they don't want to vote because they don't care. Scares me really..take the time to at least see who the candidates are (there are more then 2 candidates..though Nader still remains a numbnut) after all there is alil over 7 months till the presidential vote. You have nothing to lose..except your political voice. Those who don't vote..don't deserve to complain or commend the status of our country. I take pride in my country because we have those said rights.

I think that really applies to any citizen of any country who has the right to vote.. What do you have to lose?

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Friday, March 19, 2004 8:26 PM

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though Nader still remains a numbnut.


I don't agree with about half the Nader platform, but he seems well above the major two candidates in 'numbnut status' to me.

I don't know of any candidate beyond Bush and Kerry that are going to be on the ballots in all 50 states this coming election. While it would cause untold problems (and hence I couldn't really support it), sometimes I wish we had a binding None of the Above option on the ballot. Especially when so many states don't even get to have a say in the primaries, with candidates dropping out after the first few. I think the primary should be held on a single day, with a media black-out for 24 hours on the results.

Then again, I am the type of numbnut who would like to see campaigning limited to 2 weeks before the election, media stations obligated (as part of their civic duty) to show debates and ads, and public funding of campaigns (with very low caps) and moderators who call the candidates when they lie, distort or obfuscate an issue.

It is not like 10 months of distortion ads, slander attacks, character assassination and spewing of rhetoric actually helps anybody make an informed decision. Both sides engage in it, both sides attack the other side for doing it. In my mind it makes them both unworthy to hold the office.

Arawaen



Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

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Friday, March 19, 2004 9:08 PM

I'll give our dim-witted reviewer this much: she got an entire fan board into a great political discussion.

If all progress depends on the unreasonable, she is really going to get us somewhere.

I wonder if she's posted similar reviews on most of the "B" horror flicks I love... "Michael Myers is a bad man. Only right-wing fanatics could appreciate this movie. It has him punishing innocent teenagers for engaging in premarital sex."

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