Thoroughly disgusted
POSTED BY: jwhedonaddict
UPDATED: Friday, April 20, 2007 09:59
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Originally posted by citizen:
Ahh, I see, I'm the real troll here and you're the one posting merely to make an unsolicited insult?
I'm fairly sure I've never jumped into a thread to merely post an outright insult to someone for no reason, but hey I'm sure not posting just to be insulting would seem trollish to those that consider that the norm eh.
Because to normal people such a thing is what trolls do, get it.
Please refer to your first post in this thread.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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Quote:Maybe you could quote where the personal attack was, rather than just making a vague and IMO fallacious accusation?
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Please refer to your first post in this thread.
I asked if it was hypocritical of the person telling me, Rue and some other posters we shouldn't attack other firefly fans in another thread to then turn around and make a frankly vile and bile filled post directed at Rue with little to no provocation.
I think it is, evidently you have a different perspective, maybe you'd like to share it, or maybe you'd like to just support anyone who seems to share your politics and attack anyone who does not, regardless of what is really happening?
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Originally posted by citizen:
Maybe you could quote where the personal attack was, rather than just making a vague and IMO fallacious accusation?
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:No, this is the definition of hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
So glad I gave your pea-brain a reason to send a lethargic signal to make you laugh...now go stick your head back up your ass where it is most comfortable.
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Originally posted by citizen:
I asked if it was hypocritical of the person telling me, Rue and some other posters we shouldn't attack other firefly fans in another thread to then turn around and make a frankly vile and bile filled post directed at Ruewith little to no provocation.
Rue can defend herself, you were picking a fight IMHO.
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Originally posted by citizen:
I think it is, evidently you have a different perspective, maybe you'd like to share it, or maybe you'd like to just support anyone who seems to share your politics and attack anyone who does not, regardless of what is really happening?
As I have stated before, I engage posters more for personality than politics. I found it odd that you would post this,
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Originally posted by citizen:
Ahh, I see, I'm the real troll here and you're the one posting merely to make an unsolicited insult?
I'm fairly sure I've never jumped into a thread to merely post an outright insult to someone for no reason,...
after doing that very same thing.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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Quote:In part I was defending myself, he attacked me. You haven't proven I did what you accused me of, you saying it doesn't make it true.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Rue can defend herself, you were picking a fight IMHO.
And if I were picking a fight what were you doing? Oh that's right, picking a fight, nice
.Quote:Except I didn't do exactly the same thing. I defended myself, but if you believe you and people you agree with have the right to attack with impunity and those you dislike must shut up and accept it then more power to you.
As I have stated before, I engage posters more for personality than politics. I found it odd that you would post this,
...
after doing that very same thing.
Quote:Or maybe this is hypocrisy? You accuse me of doing something not only you do more than actually engaging on a subject, but is your stated purpose for being here.
Posting to stir stuff up.
Your stated purpose for being here is too attack other posters and not engage on politics and you think you have the right to tell other posters off even when most (including me) don't do it half as much as you.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by citizen:
In part I was defending myself, he attacked me. You haven't proven I did what you accused me of, you saying it doesn't make it true.
Now it is you who must provide proof. Show me where in this thread Jongsstraw attacked you first.
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And if I were picking a fight what were you doing? Oh that's right, picking a fight, nice
Yes, and I do not try to spin my way out of it like you are.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Except I didn't do exactly the same thing. I defended myself, but if you believe you and people you agree with have the right to attack with impunity and those you dislike must shut up and accept it then more power to you.
Again, I ask for proof. How could your first post in this thread(which we are talking about)be in your defense when you were not even mentioned?
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Originally posted by citizen:
Posting to stir stuff up. Or maybe this is hypocrisy? You accuse me of doing something not only you do more than actually engaging on a subject, but is your stated purpose for being here.
Your stated purpose for being here is too attack other posters and not engage on politics and you think you have the right to tell other posters off even when most (including me) don't do it half as much as you.
Please explain the hypocrisy. I feel my actions and signature speak for themselves, you know what you are going to get. Your fancy signature and spin do not make you any less a troll IMHO, just a closet one.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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Quote:I never said it was in this thread. I clearly stated that I thought it was hypocritical he would tell myself and others off for our actions when showing far worse behaviour elsewhere.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Now it is you who must provide proof. Show me where in this thread Jongsstraw attacked you first.
Quote:I'm not spinning my way out, I'm giving my perspective, though I realise you wish to silence all perspectives other than your own. It is you who is twising my words.
Yes, and I do not try to spin my way out of it like you are.
Quote:Again you ask for proof you are unwilling to provide yourself, but then you so rarely have, much easier to make vague accusations and not back them up when trying to distabilise a forum for no reason other than BDN's twisted pleasure I guess.
Again, I ask for proof. How could your first post in this thread(which we are talking about)be in your defense when you were not even mentioned?
Quote:I try and engage, I've had many rewarding conversations with people of diverse political opinions. I'm not a troll, I'm someone who doesn't tollerate silently the Trolls and they're supporters. I can't find common ground with you, though I have tried, and I can't get a political or any sort of debate with you because you, by your own admission, DO NOT WANT to debate with people. You want to stir stuff up, you want a fight. I don't, but that doesn't mean I'm going to walk away if someone such as yourself, who is only interested in a fight, chooses to attack me.
Please explain the hypocrisy. I feel my actions and signature speak for themselves, you know what you are going to get. Your fancy signature and spin do not make you any less a troll IMHO, just a closet one.
And since the obvious is not obvious to you the hypocrisy is that you'll tollerate it from yourself and anyone you like, even support and reveal in it, but attack others you dislike if you percieve it coming from them, or think you can twist it that way.
Beyond that I find it hard to believe I'm having an argument with a self professed troll about whose worse, the troll or the person the troll trolls. The answers obvious, these forums would be happier without you.
Good day.
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6ixstring: I'm sorry that you were ever put into a position to feel defensive for your opinions, whether that was me or anyone else (for the record I've only posted here a couple of times I think--don't remember much though). ALL politicians scare the shit out of me...but I realize that it's not only a difficult job, but also impossible to find one any of us would agree with 100%.
But if I'm going to vote for anyone, it won't knowingly be someone who lied to get us into a war, which resulted in approximately hundreds of thousands of senseless deaths (yes, I'm counting Iraqi civilians); fights to ban my right to decide what happens to my body/my child (I don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control but I DON'T WANT TO POPULATE THE COUNTRY WITH DEAD SOLDIERS, or have my child lost in the increasingly fucked-up foster care system either); and also feels it's his/her right to decide whether or not gays should be able to get married (I don't believe it's anyone else's business--as long as no one is being hurt in a situation--to decide how others should live their lives).
Bush is the Alliance personified, as far as I'm concerned.
I'm sorry if my views offend anyone...they're really not meant to. But I feel as strongly about them as you do about yours.
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Originally posted by citizen:
So I'm the one following you around just to attack you and your the one popping up only to tell me you'd kill me if you had an army?
Is this the definition of Hypocrisy?
So defensive Cit....
Not being a hypocrite at all, when I say on many occasions that I'm just as guilty of trolling as you can be. Unlike you, I admit to my lapses into trolldom freely, while you have never once admited how much of a troll you can be, even going as far as to deny that you have ever done it before.
I was kind of kidding here anyhow. I can't think of another person I'd rather argue with than you or Rue.
And I never said I'd kill you, just that I'd invade you. There may be a bit of torture involved though.
Seriously man... chill out. I can feel the heat from your anger on this thread and I'm concerned you're going to burst a blood vessle.
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NOTMANDATORY - Congratulations on having one registered member! You must be proud.
Hey hey hey! We've got more than one member if you include all of my multiple personalities. Even the ones that don't like me joined because I told them I wouldn't let them out to play if they didn't.
JWhedonAddict - Thanks for the post, but I don't recall feeling that I was put in a defensive position. Certainly not by you anyhow.
I don't blame you for counting Iraqi civilians in your death toll. We invaded them and they've never even given me a reason that I buy that we're in this war in the first place. It's all too Orwellian for me. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing the Iraqi civilian is guilty of is living in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I have a serious issue against somebody telling you that you can't have an abortion as well. Personally, I would never do it myself and I wouldn't be with someone who says they would (in fear of her killing my unborn child without even my knowledge), but the government shouldn't have a say in it. And you're right, we're supposed to believe that he cares about life and "PROLIFE" and yet he has no qualms about getting our kids and thousands of Iraqis killed for oil, or a Middle-Eastern home base or whatever the real reason is. There's Cit's definition of hypocracy at work.
As far as gay marriage is concerned, I think the government needs to recognize it, but at the same time, they cannot tell the boyscouts or the churches they need to include gays. It's not the governments place to tell an organization or group how to run their shop unless they're causing harm or committing hate crimes against them. There is nothing anywhere saying that they can't start their own groups, which I'm sure many hetrosexuals wouldn't mind being a part of in todays day and age.
Bush is the Alliance personified, as far as I'm concerned.
I know you said that, but I felt that it needed repeating. Just don't forget that the Demoncrats are just as guilty of it as he is. They've been the one raising my cigarette taxes to the point that I pay nearly $7.00 for a pack and I can't even go to a strip club anymore and smoke a cigarette. It's a bunch of invasive and Orwellian bullshit that is coming equally from both sides.
My advice to you is vote Libertarian in 2008.
Don't be too concerned about your views being offensive to people here. A lot of folk come to the RWED because theyr machochists. I'm one of em.
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Quote:Yeah it happens when people are attacked. Some defend themselves some lie down and accept a kicking with a smile on their face. If I did the latter would you really love me as much.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
So defensive Cit....
Quote:I have never said, nor do I think, that you are a troll. What I think is that sometimes you're a complete arsehole which more or less proves your human, and is also something I've admitted to myself. I don't admit to trolling because I don't go into a topic to start a fight, and I don't start using personal insults without being attacked first, despite how BDN and his troll army might like to twist it.
Not being a hypocrite at all, when I say on many occasions that I'm just as guilty of trolling as you can be. Unlike you, I admit to my lapses into trolldom freely, while you have never once admited how much of a troll you can be, even going as far as to deny that you have ever done it before.
Quote:*Sigh* I'm not angry Jack.
Seriously man... chill out. I can feel the heat from your anger on this thread and I'm concerned you're going to burst a blood vessle.
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