why am I ip-banned from this site?

POSTED BY: OddballE8
UPDATED: Monday, April 16, 2007 06:25
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CITIZEN

Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:02 PM

Or you can type in ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew at the windows command console.

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LEADB

Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:07 PM

Unfotunately, he's very likely to get back the same IP he previously had. See the discussions above about dynamic IP and how with some service providers dynamic isn't very.

Additionally, if he has a firewall-router between his box and the internet (strongly recommended), he would need to take that action on the router box.

Of course... if he doesn't... he could do
ipconfig
, make a notation of his current IP Address then try the release then renew; run ipconfig again to see what he gets; but if he gets the same IP back after that, there's a high probability he'd have to take some pretty extraordinary measures to "force" a different IP (probably involves staying off the ip service provider for a week or two). Even then, if there's not a lot of "thrash" on the subnet, he could still end up with the same IP. On the flip side, if it works, it might knock him free of the block. So... worth a try.

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CITIZEN

Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Unfotunately, he's very likely to get back the same IP he previously had. See the discussions above about dynamic IP and how with some service providers dynamic isn't very.

Additionally, if he has a firewall-router between his box and the internet (strongly recommended), he would need to take that action on the router box.

I know, but there's ways around that. And if they're using a mac, linux, solaris, QNX, BE, an older version of windows or a hundred different other things the solution will be different I was just saying what the most likely fix could be. Since most people have computers directly connected running XP that's probably ipconfig. The simplest thing would be too release the ip, wait an hour or two then renew it, since by then chances are someone else will have picked up the ip.

The problem is that the whole range has probably been blocked, which means it's most likely that he won't be able to recieve a useable ip.

As for me my DNS has suddenly gone bandy so I can't surf the web, except for sites like this where I have the IP saved in the hosts file.

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SIGMANUNKI

Monday, April 16, 2007 6:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:

You may not buy it, but way it is is the way it is. If an ISP tells their RIR: "This and that netblock we designate our dynamic IP pool," then any IP address in that range is considered dynamic. And, conversely, "static" when it's in the range for which your ISP has said: "This batch we call static." ISPs just buy netblocks; and it's really up to them to reserve which space for which.

No offense, but this part of your reply tells me that you didn't really read mine i.e. I wasn't disagreeing with this particular point. Though you haven't given us a citation either.

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:

And, like I said, the behavior of the IP address, or whether it's given out by DHCP or no, it matters none. For pratical reasons, it doesn't change; but that's not what makes it static:

Why you bring the deliver method up is beyond me as it is immaterial to this discussion.

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:

many dynamic IP addresses never change either, and yet they're still every bit as dynamic as if you were to get a new IP address every day.

I stated this above as well. But, you seem to be assuming here that the dynamic address that are appearing static are static by design of the ISP. This is not necessarily the case as there are many other reasons why a dynamic address might appear static. I covered a few further up in the thread.

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:

Quote:

There is a reason why things are given different names.

Yes; it's just not the reason you're thinking. :)

Don't be an ass. And don't think that I'm going to take your word on it at face value. Because, at least I've used logic/experience in my analysis above. You've only provided your word. Again, citations.

Let's look at what a major ISP says what a static IP is:

http://www.sprint.com/business/help/help9.html
"""
Static IP Address Definition
A static IP address means your computer uses the same address every time you log on to the Internet.
...
"""

Similarly here:
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci520967
,00.html

Here:

http://www.answers.com/topic/ip-address

Here:

http://www.techterms.org/definition/ipaddress

And here:

http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=static+IP+address&i=52
039,00.asp

Though there are sure to be many more citations that I can post.

The fact of the matter is that everyone has already agreed that static ip's do _not_ change, period (save business man

ups), and dynamic ones can (though practically the lifetime of the IP can be long).

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