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why am I ip-banned from this site?

POSTED BY: OddballE8
UPDATED: Monday, April 16, 2007 06:25
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Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:39 PM

I've logged onto this site almost every day since April 2nd 2004, and my IP address has been banned from here for over a year now, since not long after the site was spammed almost to destruction last year.
I remember Haken saying that the database did a broad scan of pretty much all the IPs that log on to here and blocked alot of potentially dangerous ones. Unfortunately that scan also blocked alot of perfectly innocent IP addresses.
Untill it's rectified (don't hold you're breath) you'll just need to use a proxy browser, there are a good selection of them that are easy to find. Non of them work perfectly, some you can post on the forums with - but you can't download any pictures, others will but you can't login / post anything. Just pick which one works best.

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:41 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You didn't really ban the Kaneman, didja?



I used all of the psychic and telekinetic power I could muster- we'll see if it holds...

Mutant Chrisisall

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:46 PM

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Originally posted by shameless:
Dude, if Chrisisall could do that... ::bakes hundreds of cookies for Chrisisall::


Why thank you Shameless!

I was actually hoping to put a slight scare into Kaneman, who knows if it worked. My revulsion for that turd knows no bounds.

Maybe Haken will grant our wish!!!

The vengeful Chrisisall

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 3:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You didn't really ban the Kaneman, didja?


"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack




Six,
Kaneman=Haken.....Chrisisall=MonkeyShit

Did you really think that nutter could ban me?

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 3:34 PM

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Originally posted by shameless:
Dude, if Chrisisall could do that... ::bakes hundreds of cookies for Chrisisall::

Though, honestly, my first thought was: Wait - Chrisisall didn't end with his (her?) usual " Chrisisall"! WHAT'S GOING ON?!?

Except less drastic.

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I am So offended, you are shameless! You should thank your lucky stars that I like to masturbate to your pics in the pic thread, otherwise I would verbally abuse you 'till your vagina feel off........now go lay on the floor and take some more pics you nutcase.

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:
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Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Depends on how long the lease is for. We have ours set at 2 weeks where I work for DHCP IPs.



I may be a bit confused regarding what exactly a dynamic IP is then. I was under the impression that they were assigned at logon from the pool of available addies. I supose an ISP could hard wire a specific IP but wouldn't that in effect make it a static IP? And don't most ISPs charge extra for that?




There seems to be some confusion as to what a dynamic IP address is. Or a static one, for that matter. A common misconception is the belief that IP addresses given out by an ISP's DHCP server, are dynamic. Or that, if the lease is very long, that they've become, de facto, static. None of that is true, though. A dynamic IP address, or "dynamic IP space", rather, is simply this: netblock(s) that your ISP has marked as "dynamic" with, say, ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers).

ARIN is one of five RIRs (Regional Internet Registries). The others are: RIPE, AfriNIC, APNIC, and LACNIC. If your ISP gives you a static IP address, it would be from a netblock they marked as "static" with their RIR. That IP address could even change, and in its behavior appear dynamic, yet would still be considered static when it would be from a netblocked they marked as "static" (they're not gonna give you a changing IP address, of course; but just to make the point).

Naturally, no site would EVER block your IP address for merely being dynamic. Otherwise soon nobody would be able to surf the web any more. :) Blocking dynamic IP space, in practice, is ONLY done when servers receive mail from those addresses: because mail is not supposed to come from a dynamic IP address, as you're supposed to use your ISP's SMTP server.


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Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:

If your ISP gives you a static IP address, it would be from a netblock they marked as "static" with their RIR. That IP address could even change, and in its behavior appear dynamic, yet would still be considered static when it would be from a netblocked they marked as "static" (they're not gonna give you a changing IP address, of course; but just to make the point).




I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that. Calling a certain batch of IP's dynamic and another batch static but having them behave the same is absolutely ludicrous. There is a reason why things are given different names. Once you got an IP, you got it (geographical/changing ISP limitations not withstanding).

Of course, this doesn't take into account the dumbasses that are known as business men. They can cause... difficulty (one of my buddies had to deal with this at one point).

But seriously. If static and dynamic IP's didn't have standard accepted meanings, the internet would fall apart.

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

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Originally posted by asarian:

If your ISP gives you a static IP address, it would be from a netblock they marked as "static" with their RIR. That IP address could even change, and in its behavior appear dynamic, yet would still be considered static when it would be from a netblocked they marked as "static" (they're not gonna give you a changing IP address, of course; but just to make the point).




I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that. Calling a certain batch of IP's dynamic and another batch static but having them behave the same is absolutely ludicrous.


You may not buy it, but way it is is the way it is. If an ISP tells their RIR: "This and that netblock we designate our dynamic IP pool," then any IP address in that range is considered dynamic. And, conversely, "static" when it's in the range for which your ISP has said: "This batch we call static." ISPs just buy netblocks; and it's really up to them to reserve which space for which.

And, like I said, the behavior of the IP address, or whether it's given out by DHCP or no, it matters none. When you approach your ISP for a static IP address, they will give you one from their "static" pool. For pratical reasons, it doesn't change; but that's not what makes it static: many dynamic IP addresses never change either, and yet they're still every bit as dynamic as if you were to get a new IP address every day.

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There is a reason why things are given different names.


Yes; it's just not the reason you're thinking. :)


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Sunday, April 15, 2007 1:00 PM

One "clarification" to the above.

Dynamic IP: The provider reserves the right, at their sole whim, the next time your ip expires, to give you any old IP they wish. If it changes from time to time, you cannot give them a hard time. (Or more exactly, they will not be sympathetic if you do.) If it happens to be the same from time to time, who cares?

Static IP: The provider agrees the IP is yours as long as you keep paying for it. If they assign it to someone else, you can not only give them a hard time, but possibly get service fee re-imbursement for having failed to live up to their end of the contract. Actually, there may even be penalties in the contract to the server provider that excede simple service fee re-imbursement.

I have dynamic IP. I've had the same IP for about 18 months now. I only know this because I keep notes when I have problems; and recently when having a problem noticed it had not changed in that long. Actually, I might have had the same IP even longer.

One "trick" the provider can pull is this: If they notice you are doing a "unusually" large amount of traffic; and they notice you are playing server rather than client; they might be tempted to jerk your IP around to get you to pony up for the static IP (which generally they charge a few buck more for).


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Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:43 PM

well... it seems i can still check in on you guys every now and then if i use a proxy browser... so thats how it will work now then... until something is done about this...

/Oddball_E8

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