Is BSG better than FF/BDM?

POSTED BY: Grotz
UPDATED: Sunday, April 15, 2007 03:52
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ECGORDON

Friday, April 13, 2007 1:57 PM

If BSG had been able to continue in the tradition of the mini and Season One it would be getting very close to my #2 all-time favorite SF program, Babylon 5. However, it has squandered most of its potential, but I'm hoping they get back on track for Season Four.

I like well-written, character-based shows, so lately I have been high on Lost, Veronica Mars and Heroes, and in the past few years I have cherished Wonderfalls, Joan of Arcadia, Dead Like Me, etc, but Firefly is still #1 in my estimation (and I mean all shows, not just SF), and I think it's going to be a long time before I fall so deeply in love with another series.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

GROTZ

Friday, April 13, 2007 2:09 PM

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Originally posted by Chindi:
ITA with the above.. I love BSG too. It is interesting, well written and well acted.. but you wouldn't want to live there.. and it does not hold up as well on repeat viewings.. I think the reason is the lack of humor. Now, BSG is another type of show; and humor would not necessarily fit there. but I think the humor (which is so human!) is part of what gives FF the edge..

I would live on Serenity or at Haven or anywhere with this crew... I would not want to live in the BSG world.. it is so grim.

But I do watch it, and I do love the show.. and Callis (Baltar) is a most delicious and complex bad guy.. really love that character/actor

Chindi

It is very good point about not wanting to live in BSG 'verse.
I'm telling everyone, that I want spaceship class Firefly at my birthday. Most look at me like I'm an idiot.

BSG clearly lacks humour, cheerfulness and optimism, then again, those things maybe hard to come by, when your race is on verge of exstinction (hmm im not a native english person) and on the run.
It is possible to include some humourous characters anyway.
Like the Merry and Pippin.
Tasslehoff Burrfoot.
Han Solo.
and of course Wamba.

Funny thing actually, in Firefly everybody is humourous, even Simon, his comments on Jayne gets me everytime. To Jayne! The box dropping, man-ape-gone-wrong-thing.
All character's in all the Whedon 'verses has their moments. Guess that is why I love them all.
*shniff*, hrm, hrgg, im not crying, im a manly man.

STORYMARK

Friday, April 13, 2007 2:35 PM

Kind-of a silly question to ask on a Firefly fan-site if you want an objective answer. Ask the same question on a BSG board, and I'm sure the answers would be equally lop-sided.

And for those talking about the plunge in ratings, keep in mind that it's been confirmed that a large percentage of viewers are now downloading the episodes via X-Box Live and iTunes, neither of which are reflected in the ratings. That, and the DVD sales are still really, really good (indicating a lot of fans just wait for the DVD).

If the viewership was as small as the posted ratings suggest, SciFi wouldn't have doubled their initial episode order for next year, and commissioned a TV movie to boot.

People are watching, just not playing the traditional ratings game.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

GROTZ

Friday, April 13, 2007 3:15 PM

Storymark, it was a rhetorical question, ment for you to go what!? and then see the link to
http://stargate-news.com/
and tell everybody you know to vote.

REGINAROADIE

Friday, April 13, 2007 4:02 PM

It's hard to answer that question accurately, because those two shows, while sharing some visual aesthetics, are different in their ideology. FF/BDM is a purely character driven sci-fi story. It's more concerned with these nine people on a ship, rather than exploring a brand new world or unraveling the mysteries of the universe. There's no real overreaching arch that would have run through the series, like with BSG or ST: VOY which was all about getting home.

While BSG is character driven to some degree, the main point of the show is to explore the social dynamics of a society on the run, get to Earth and unravel the mysteries of the universe and be all allegorical and reflective of a post 9/11 world. And while it succeeds, to me there's no real sense of adventure. And by adventure, I mean that there's a sense of fun in the action sequences. It's all "do or die".

I think the one sci-fi show that would give FIREFLY a run for it's money is the new DOCTOR WHO. It's purely character driven, every week you 're in a new time or world or both, there are some great emotional moments and theorizing over the mysteries of the universe (I always think of "Father's Day" as one of the best episodes of the series) and it's incredibly funny. But the main reason I love it is because it answers a simple question. When you're watching it, do you think to yourself "Do I want to visit this world?" If you were sucked into the tv show like Tobey Maguire and Reese Witherspoon in PLEASANTVILLE, would it be a world you'd want to visit for real. And my answer is yes. I would rather bum around in the TARDIS or on Serenity than be on the Galactica. I'd rather my killers be Reavers or Daleks than Cylons. At least with the two former they'd actually kill you. The latter would just bore you with them asking 20 questions on what make a human a human. And I'd rather have Mal Reynolds or The Doctor save my ass instead of Adama or Lee or Starbuck.

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MAVOURNEEN

Friday, April 13, 2007 4:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Kind-of a silly question to ask on a Firefly fan-site if you want an objective answer. Ask the same question on a BSG board, and I'm sure the answers would be equally lop-sided.

Perhaps, but as testament to what I wrote before, and how other BSG'ers feel about Firefly:
http://galacticawatercooler.com/2007/04/08/gwc-re-watch-frak-party-33/
#comments

Go about 2/3 down the page & you'll see my comment. From there on, many of the comments are very Pro-Firefly, as Firefly was mentioned in the most previous Galactica Watercooler podcast.

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ALLIETHORN7

Friday, April 13, 2007 7:38 PM

Is BSG better than FF/BDM? Bite your tongue, Phillistine!
Seriously, I watch BSG from time to time. I liked the mini-series better, frankly. It's a great show, don't get me wrong. But, I think that it tries to rap it's ending up all happy-like a lot. Joss got that right-happy endings don't happen in real life. BSG tries, granted, but it tries a bit too hard, in my opinion. It shows, and gets in the way of enjoyment. Still, it is on par with SG-1, easily, and still a pretty damned good show.

Having fun yet?

-Danny

I wanna take the Bullet,
The one aimed straight for your Heart;
I wanna meet the wolves halfway,
And let them Tear me APART,
But that's not the way they do it here...
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!

STORYMARK

Friday, April 13, 2007 7:51 PM

BSG episodes ending happy....

.............huh?

And saying BSG is on par with SG-1, is like saying Buffy is on-par with Charmed.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

GROTZ

Sunday, April 15, 2007 1:21 AM

Well, well, well, Firefly is better, who would have thought that.
Start clicking then boy and girls.

http://stargate-news.com/

We are still 260 behind.

PIRATECAT

Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:55 AM

Firefly is kingdaddy of scifi shows. Its BDHs that other show is modern day losers or english people who don't like showers. Cylons kicked their ass because you have cowards on the Galatica. Pegasuas had a better crew. They went after the robots not run away.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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