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the future of firefly

POSTED BY: tweakerlime
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 22:03
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Monday, April 9, 2007 11:36 PM

Wow, Tweakerlime... I'll bet this welcome has made you wonder if you've come to the place that actually represents the fandom. Whew...you've received answers from two folks who had to bring your heart down a peg.

Please don't mind Kaneman, she's always like that.
Mostly it's best to not take her to heart.

TheOneTrueBix isn't foolin'. Our chances are truly slim to none. Doesn't deter me any. I plan to hold til something happens. I'm not leaving this fandom no matter how many nay sayers there are. This boat is my home.

As some of our members have already posted to you, there is much to look forward to. Please look around and avail yourself of the many links to guerilla marketing, shindigs, new shows for the actors, links to other sites in the 'Verse. Just make yourself to home. We're glad you're here.
New folks are a light to us, allow us to see clearly that folks still fall in love with the magic that captured us.

I have this quaint little thing that I do when new folks arrive... I give them an imaginary browncoat just like Mal's.

*hands Tweakerlime a browncoat from the storeroom*

I wear mine with fierce pride. I hope you will too. I hold to most of the same ideals that Mal does... I'm not giving up yet. I can't and I won't.





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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:51 AM


First off, welcome to the board. Secondly, yours is the ultimate question, isn't it...? There are many fans, (browncoats), here who might have better answers than just "hold the line", but in the end isn't that all we can do - all the email, mass buying of dvds, letter writting campaigns, etc. may or may not make a difference to the powers that be...but as long as we hold on to that feeling we get after watching Out of Gas or Serenity or any one of those great episodes, there will always be a verse, and if this is all we ever get, I say it was worth it all - and I, for one, am very grateful for what we got.

sometimes more is less....

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:12 AM

I know Gough Whitlam was talking about the travesty of holding a democratically elected government to ransom and then dropping the axe on our elected head of parliament by the unelected representative of the Queen (Well may we say...) but:

Maintain the Rage and the Enthusiam

I just hope Firefly/Serenity has better success.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:20 PM

I want to second FOLLOWMALs emotional post.We can not listen to the nay-sayers. SISTER,CENTURY22,ASORTAFAIRYTALE,DAYVE and TRUEBLUE all have made good points.As long as FF fandom lives the show lives. I watched all of FF disk 2 yesterday and I swear that the show has such power I feel that it's still on the air. How many other tv series can say that? Most of the mucky-muck that is on the tube now ain't worth a ruttin mud hole on Whitefall. Firefly will live on till we're all dead and gone and the dinosaurs take back the earth. Even then I can see in the future where one dino will walk up to another and say " Mine is an evil laugh, now DIE!"

Z

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:13 PM

Actually my answer was very honest.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:02 PM

As long as there are Firefly fans, it ain't dead. The chances of a second movie or return of the series are between slim and none... but then, so were the changes of a FIRST movie getting made.

The DVD of both the series and the movie have done well enough to show support for the show. The Serenity miniseries from Dark Horse was, I believe, one of their top sellers for the year (and hopefully the next miniseries in the fall will be too). Although none of met with huge success yet, a number of the actors have gone on to do other projects which will make them more recognizable and broaden the fanbase when there is a return. Heck, it seems like not a day goes by that I don't see someone find this site and say "Hey, I just discovered the show/movie. Can you tell me what's happening in the future?"

It's perhaps too much to hope for, but I can't help but notice that there's rumor that Battelstar Galactica is ending after season four, and also that Joss doesn't have much to do besides "Goners" and some comic book projects. Since some folks feel that BSG "stole" Firefly's chance at a spot on the SciFi channel, it's possible that the karma is circling around. The timing seems right, after all, and things like that have happened before.

Even if the stars don't align there, they will eventually (look at how long it was between Star Trek's TV cancellation and movie return--we're already way ahead of the game!). Meantime, there's little stuff like the forthcoming comic book miniseries to look forward to (and, for those with an interest, fan-based projects... I won't toot my group's own horn to much, but just direct you to the link in my sig).


www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sister:
Actually my answer was very honest.



I know, Sister. It is indeed honest to look at the fact that getting more Serenity, because let's face it more FF is not possible anymore, is looking very difficult.

Reality does suck.

But I look at it this way.

We still stand the barest chance for another film.
It's not much to hang on to, but it is there for now.
We have a small chance of a direct to DVD movie.
Small but there for now.

I don't believe that any amount of guerilla marketing, voting or recruiting increases our chances per se. What I do believe is that sharing this great show with other folks lets them experience a wonderful thing and increases our numbers.

That's nice because all of us together make up a really fine fandom, and if we never get anything else, we can enjoy that.








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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:53 PM

FollowMal: Thanks..I appreciate what you say and mostly agree. The absolute truth is that no one knows the future..including the Onetruebutth..oops, bix....and dislike being essentially called "dishonest."

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:08 PM

Well, I guess I believe there's still better than "slim to none" chance we'll get another movie of some kind. More Firefly? No, but a movie is real possibility. If merchandising continues to do well, and DVDs continue to sell well of both Firefly and the BDM, someone will take notice. Also, although it runs out supposedly soon, Universal did sign a 3 picture deal, so they hold the rights to another picture for now.

I also truly believe that many more people have seen the BDM since it's release due to Browncoats, but also to Netflicks, Blockbuster, HBO, etc. So while its exposure didn't set the world on fire, it has had more exposure than you'd think. That's where the Browncoats can continue to hold the line and push more people to see the BDM and BDS whenever we get a chance.

Just last week, I *FINALLY* got a friend of mine in Germany to watch Firefly, after I went to amazon.de and purchased the German version of it and sent it to him so he'd watch it. He wrote back just gushing about what an incredible show it was, and he couldn't believe that FOX had canceled it, etc. Don't you think that there are now a bunch of people around Frankfurt being converted to new Browncoats as we speak, because I know he's out there leading the charge! How many of those converted will get their friends to become Browncoats, and so on?

To say our chances are "slim to none" is to say the glass is half full. While there isn't any good news right now for more Firefly or Serenity, nobody has said to my knowledge that there absolutely won't be more, and that means the door is still open. Everyone should plan on buying the new release of Serenity, and while you're at it, go buy the HD-DVD version of it as well to show Universal how serious we are about this movie. Having the HD-DVD version is cool to have, even if you don't have an HD-DVD player, because it's different, and you can also claim it as your first High-Definition DVD purchase! Who can't remember the very first CD you ever bought when they came out many years ago (for us old foggies)? (Boston, Don't Look Back if you must know)

Ok, that's my 2 cents worth! As Browncoats, we're going to keep knocking on the door until we knock the damn thing down!

Mark

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Book: "Quite specific. It is however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps"

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:03 PM

The future may lie with the fans, creating their own stories and telling their own tales.

I'm interested in the internet becoming a new distribution channel. With the growth of video online and broadband access there's the possibility that small numbers of fans across the world in many nations can come together to create a large enough market to support a commercial enterprise.

One of the first to attempt this will be the show Sanctuary - http://www.sanctuaryforall.com/ and http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/02/12/tapping-finds-sanctuary/. This is being made by highly experienced producers/crew in Vancouver B.C. who worked on the Stargate series. If they can prove that the online business model can work financially and technologically then we may be in for a radical cultural shift. This could cut out the distributor/exhibitor and connect the producers and fans directly.

We have a site imaging the next season of Firefly - http://www.stillflying.net/
We have a audio series with a shiny cast that's really worth listening to - http://sonic.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=118820
http://www.sonicsociety.org/

If Sanctuary works what's to stop fans drumming up the support for a fan film? A film that will work commercially and be the basis for future films.

We wouldn't be the first fandom to try this either. The brave lads and lasses of Finland have beaten us to it, check out In the Pirkinning - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck:_In_the_Pirkinning.
The Computer graphics in this film are very high quality and the comedy is good for an amateur production.

Hold the Line, there's more, much more to come.

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