Bullet Realism in TV/Film
POSTED BY: h0w412d
UPDATED: Saturday, April 7, 2007 06:14
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We've discussed the Vera-in-a-spacesuit thing before. My pet theory is that she doesn't need the air for combustion, but because there's an interlock designed to prevent the gun from being used in vacuo -- that is, a safety feature. Nothing like that would be needed today, naturally, but when space travel is common it might be desirable.
We're already moving toward more secure interlocks on weapons. It won't be long before we have guns that will only fire if they're being held by their owner (or someone they've been told to allow).
Agreed on the recoil thing. It's such a common thing in TV/movies that I don't really notice it that much anymore, unless it's really over the top. More subtle reactions can be rationalized as the person's nerves and muscles reacting to the impact, or just to being shot at. For example, the kid could be trying to "twist away" from the blast as it hits him.
On the other hand, the "diving through glass" thing always annoys me. I wonder how many kids have tried to copy that, not realizing that Hollywood uses prop glass made of sugar?
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Quote:"Burnham Quadrant."
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
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also, in Objects in Space, Mal sends the bounty hunter flying when they're both in spacesuits on top of Serenity. the bounty hunter flies fairly fast away from the ship, and unless Mal had his back to something or his feet stepped in something, he should've flown back too. scene was kinda dark. dunno if he was.
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Originally posted by DonCoat:
We've discussed the Vera-in-a-spacesuit thing before.
Didn't Joss & Co. address this, saying they actually consulted someone about it and THOUGHT they were being accurate in their description but turned out to be misinformed? I'm almost certain I remember that.
Joss also talks on the movie commentary about wanting to give little science tidbits to justify things but was not particularly concerned with their legitimacy - i.e. if it sounded plausible to the audience then he didn't really mind if it was true or not.
Don't make faces.
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If air is needed to fire Vera, wouldn't that first shot render her inoperable? Jayne gets off four or five rounds.
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Originally posted by h0w412d:
also, in Objects in Space, Mal sends the bounty hunter flying when they're both in spacesuits on top of Serenity. the bounty hunter flies fairly fast away from the ship, and unless Mal had his back to something or his feet stepped in something, he should've flown back too. scene was kinda dark. dunno if he was.
If you watch Mal's motion you can see that he is pushing up and away against Early. That means a large amount of the force would be directed towards keeping Mal attached to the ship (presumably through magnetic boots). Still, I agree it is not generally a safe thing to do to try to push someone off a spaceship.
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Quote:OTOH, this is Malcolm "Ill-Conceived-Plan" Reynolds we're talking about.
Originally posted by Decaf:
it is not generally a safe thing to do to try to push someone off a spaceship.
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Originally posted by WhoDied:
If air is needed to fire Vera, wouldn't that first shot render her inoperable? Jayne gets off four or five rounds.
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Air would have been leaking out of the bullet holes, but still present while Jayne was firing. A suit would hold quite a bit of air without a human body in it.
I'm on board with the "safety" feature on Vera hypothesis. Subjecting a metal and plastic gun to 3 degrees Kelvin, then hit it with combustion pressures in the 60k-70kpsi range seems like a good way to shatter a barrel and shred your spacesuit.
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also in Object of Space, when early was flying to his ship, he knocks it a bit, and the ship is set in slow motion. but the next time we see it it's moving very quickly away from serenity.
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Originally posted by marina:Quote:
Originally posted by DonCoat:
We've discussed the Vera-in-a-spacesuit thing before.
Didn't Joss & Co. address this, saying they actually consulted someone about it and THOUGHT they were being accurate in their description but turned out to be misinformed? I'm almost certain I remember that.
I remember this too but I don't remember where it was...
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