Serenity Best Sci-fi movie ever

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STORYMARK

Thursday, April 5, 2007 7:52 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Classics that time will verify:
Solaris
Serenity
Children Of Men

The only time I was ever a victim of enthusiasm was Highlander; it never got the recognition I initially believed it would get...it got a cult-y status, though.

I dug the hell out of Children of Men, but I really doubt it'll go down as a classic. I'm thinking few will really remember it 30 years from now. And I barely know anyone who even liked Solaris, much less consider it a classic.

I agree with you on highlander, though. Great potential, driven into the ground (the still-unreleased 5th movie is Gawd-awful).

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 5, 2007 8:03 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

And I barely know anyone who even liked Solaris, much less consider it a classic.

Solaris is much like 2001, there's a lot there, but even more depends on what you bring to the party.
It's a little heady for the general Star Wars crowd.
And remember all that talk in early reviews of Blade Runner? "Too dark/hero gets beat up too much/nothing but depressing gloomy rain/too confusing/too slow-paced, etc." But at least Blade Runner had violence. Solaris depends entirely on concept and interpretation. That's a rough sell.

Chrisisall of the Chicago Sun Times

STORYMARK

Thursday, April 5, 2007 9:03 PM

I agree with your points. And yet, I still know very, veryu few who actually liked Solaris (and I frequent some fairly artsy-inclined movie industry message boards, where Star Wars and the like are practically reviled).

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 5, 2007 9:07 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I agree with your points. And yet, I still know very, very few who actually liked Solaris

Did you like it? I'm still interpreting it more on every viewing....

Hey! My cut disappeared Chrisisall

EARLY

Thursday, April 5, 2007 11:42 PM

2001...seriously I fell asleep. i bet it was awesome when it first came out but after Star wars and all that followed it was just dull. But Yay for Serenity.

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ROY

Friday, April 6, 2007 12:40 AM

I was 16 when Star Wars was released and I can still remember the excitement and awe of seeing it on the big screen for the first time. The deafening cheering & thunderous applause during the final credits was more like the crowd at a major sports final - no one wanted to leave. The entire experience was absolutely awesome, walked out of the theatre feeling 10 feet tall. I have never experienced anything like that at any other movie. Thank you Star Wars, you were magnificent in 1977 and will be THE measuring stick for sci-fi / fantasy for many more years to come.

However that was 30 years ago, times have changed and so have I. Now I want storyline, depth of character, multiple plots/threads and expect the special effects to support the movie, not be the movie (ala Matrix). Enter Firefly/Serenity.

Unlike Star Wars, Serenity won't have a massive affect on the way movies are made. But in time it will be seen as a classic like Forbidden Planet, Planet of the Apes, 2001, Blade Runner, et al. These movies are not the giant leap that Star Wars was, rather they are the milestones that identify the transitions in motion picture story telling.

For a bit of nostlgia I watched Star Wars yesterday afternoon - haven't seen it for years. My, how times have changed. My teenage children (19 & 16) walked in and out a couple of times but did not sit through it all. That night, after dinner, my daughter put on Serenity. Just as the intro credits started my son materialised on the sofa, a few minutes later my wife joined us. When Fanty & Mingo are being introduced the doorbell rings - pause - sons GF asking if he wants to go to the club. No, he prefers to stay and watch Serenity - what !!! So she spends the evening with us as well.

In this family at least, the BDM is up there with Star Wars.

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FOLLOWMAL

Friday, April 6, 2007 3:02 AM

I first saw Firefly, fell in love with it, was very excited when they came out with Serenity and went to see it. Took my Mom and my daughter. The three of us cover 3 generations of sci fi fans.
We loved it! It blew our socks off!

We came out of the theater and my Mom ( who likes all sci-fi and is open minded ) looked at me and said with a grin on her face... "That's what Star Wars should have made me feel!!"

My daughter who is jaded about sci fi and opinionated said "This should be the next big franchise!".

I'm glad Serenity won the poll, Star Wars has enough fans and enough publicity and enough followers that it can spare a bit of attention and not be intimidated one bit.

I believe that Chrisisall is right... Serenity will be a classic. It deserved to win this poll.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 6, 2007 3:57 AM

Personally, I wasn't a fan. It didn't have the feel of the show and I couldn't help feeling like I'd heard the story several times before.

They killed off Wash and my personal favorite character, Book... not to mention any chance of bringing the show back with the same charisma it had before. If they made another movie, I'd watch it, but I want them to bring back the show with Book and Wash.

Also, T2 was 100 times better than Terminator and Star Wars, argueably, wasn't even Sci-Fi.

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ROY

Friday, April 6, 2007 4:49 AM

Hiya SixStringJack.

I'd catagorise SW as Sci-fi/fantasy and BDM as sci-fi/adventure.

The BDM does have faults, the biggest being including Book in the plot. He served no real purpose in the storyline, apart from his death scene. People who'd never seen FF would have puzzled over what he was about and why his death meant anything special. Much better not to have included that character in the movie at all.

I didn't like to see Wash being killed off but I have to give it to Joss, it worked. The first time I saw it happen I felt like I'd been skewered by a harpoon. At one point it looked like they might all get killed off, I felt it was a real risk. To get those effects, it had to be a significant character.

C'mon Universal, tell us there's going to be a sequel.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 6, 2007 10:35 AM

I've wondered what I would think of Serenity if I went into it under different circumstances. It's possible that I have never and will never give it a fair shot. Maybe I should try watching it again.

If it were completely unattached to Firefly and had an entirely different cast (which would be fairly easy to do, one would imagine), I may have enjoyed it immensely. It was just a let down to me. Nothing wrong with the acting or the special effects, but to me it had none of the magic of the show. It was rushed (I understand it had to be), good characters were needlessly killed off (I also understand Joss likes doing that and he knew this may have been his last chance to do so), and haveing had absolutely no knowledge about it at all going in it was such a huge letdown because before I saw the movie the I thought that the show was so good I was confident that the series would continue once the word got out (Like Family Guy).

But, if they ever did bring back the show now, the only way it could be like it was before is if the entire BDM were discounted as River's dream in some sort of Dallas or Newheart/Bob Newheart Show kind of way. Just my opinion. Not trying to be arguementative with anyone here.... I save that for the RWED.

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