Iran holds British sailors hostage
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UPDATED: Saturday, December 7, 2024 02:28
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Quote:Do you see now that that would have been a mistake?
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Blair ought to tell those camel-humpers he'll drop a nuke on their ass TONITE..,.if those folks aren't out by 5PM today!
I understand the anger, but our response must not always be a forceful one.
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Do you see now that that would have been a mistake?
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Blair ought to tell those camel-humpers he'll drop a nuke on their ass TONITE..,.if those folks aren't out by 5PM today!
I understand the anger, but our response must not always be a forceful one.
Chrisisall
I read things like this and laugh, what if the shoe was on the other foot... If the US ( and or Britain ) steps out of line with unwarranted acts of aggression justified by manufactured evidence and flawed theory.... as it frequently does
By this logic the US needs several nukes dropped on their collective asses.
I read today that Ahmadinejad has ordered a Presidential Pardon and will be releasing these prisoners as part of a Easter / Muslim holiday celebration, as I suspect was his intention from the start. Whether or not this patrol strayed into Iranian waters ( they may have, neither side has any credibility to say otherwise ) He certainly made himself look like the man who stood up to Bush and Blair.... And also made Bush and Blair look like warmongering fools in the bargain. Most in the US and UK likely would disagree, but remember this plays very differently in the rest of the planet, and that was the intended audience anyway.
" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack
Run to the hills run for your lives "
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Quote:Gino, you realize this is Hero/AURaptor/ShinyEd bait, don't you?
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
He certainly made himself look like the man who stood up to Bush and Blair.... And also made Bush and Blair look like warmongering fools in the bargain.
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Hot diggy dog their out. Good. Now I hope they get a good breakfast with mom and dad lots bacon and eggs with plenty of those fine English bangors. I always understood international waters was 1 mile off of a nation's shore. But I am glad for the sailors and marines.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Gino, you realize this is Hero/AURaptor/ShinyEd bait, don't you?
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
He certainly made himself look like the man who stood up to Bush and Blair.... And also made Bush and Blair look like warmongering fools in the bargain.
It is the truth. How do you think this all plays out in the Middle East, or Asia, or Latin America... or Russia....
Iran 1 .... Idiots 0
" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack
Run to the hills run for your lives "
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ironmaiden/liveafterdeath.html#12
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Quote:How do you figure? There's irrefutable evidence that has been released proving they were in Iraqi waters. Iran originally said they were picked up in Iraqi waters, they changed their story days after. How do you figure that actual evidence doesn't trump rhetoric because you want the UK to be in the wrong on this one?
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Whether or not this patrol strayed into Iranian waters ( they may have, neither side has any credibility to say otherwise )
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:I tend to have Canadian (CBC), South African (iAfrica) and German (Spiegel, n-tv) news sources in addition to British and American ones, and I haven't seen any of those take Iran's side. In fact, BBC was one of the more neutral ones, what Spiegel has to say about Ahmadinejad, both during the crisis and now, is scathing.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
.... And also made Bush and Blair look like warmongering fools in the bargain. Most in the US and UK likely would disagree, but remember this plays very differently in the rest of the planet, and that was the intended audience anyway.
In addition, Blair and his cabinet have stressed a diplomatic resolution to this issue, and I haven't read anything to the contrary anywhere. The only warmongering came from the Iranian side, and the only one to look like a fool is Ahmadinejad for seemingly giving up in the face of international pressure (at least that's what it looks like on the outside).
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:How do you figure? There's irrefutable evidence that has been released proving they were in Iraqi waters. Iran originally said they were picked up in Iraqi waters, they changed their story days after. How do you figure that actual evidence doesn't trump rhetoric because you want the UK to be in the wrong on this one?
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Whether or not this patrol strayed into Iranian waters ( they may have, neither side has any credibility to say otherwise )
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
There was irrefutable evidence that Saddam had WMD...
That issue could only be decided by an uninvolved third party.
" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack
Run to the hills run for your lives "
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ironmaiden/liveafterdeath.html#12
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Originally posted by Khyron:Quote:I tend to have Canadian (CBC), South African (iAfrica) and German (Spiegel, n-tv) news sources in addition to British and American ones, and I haven't seen any of those take Iran's side. In fact, BBC was one of the more neutral ones, what Spiegel has to say about Ahmadinejad, both during the crisis and now, is scathing.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
.... And also made Bush and Blair look like warmongering fools in the bargain. Most in the US and UK likely would disagree, but remember this plays very differently in the rest of the planet, and that was the intended audience anyway.
In addition, Blair and his cabinet have stressed a diplomatic resolution to this issue, and I haven't read anything to the contrary anywhere. The only warmongering came from the Iranian side, and the only one to look like a fool is Ahmadinejad for seemingly giving up in the face of international pressure (at least that's what it looks like on the outside).
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/41541F59-D56E-495A-804B-BF43498
43F85.htm
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2422650.ece
" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack
Run to the hills run for your lives "
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ironmaiden/liveafterdeath.html#12
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Quote:Firstly, no there wasn't and this is specious reasoning at best. Secondly even the Iranian account backed up the British evidence before they changed their story. That and the ship they were searching when they were picked up was still anchored in Iraqi waters after not budging an inch.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
There was irrefutable evidence that Saddam had WMD...
So:
Britain has supplied evidence, Iran has not.
Britain originally said they were in Iraqi waters not Iranian, and so did the Iranians.
Iran changed it's story, Britain has not.
So why is Iran's story equally strong again?
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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