SFX movie poll, are we doing more damage than good...
POSTED BY: BrownBug
UPDATED: Saturday, April 14, 2007 07:48
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This is my first post, I have been a lurker for a while.
We are browncoats, obsessive, gorram right.
It is a part of what we are.
And dont mind that cinemablend guy, seems to me he more obsessive about hating browncoats.
Ours is a loving obsessiveness.
Once you have been in Serenity, you never leave.
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Seems to me in reading this "rant" that JoshT has a real mad on for the browncoats. He compliments the movie and admits he likes it, but his attack on the entire browncoat community for the alleged actions of a few fans (notice I did not call them browncoats) is irrational and illogical. I liken it to condemning everyone reading this who is a member of the human race for the evil actions of a few of our species. Because some are evil the entire population is guilty? Ridiculous!
I posted a response which has to be approved by the "moderator" of the page first. Let's see if he is a censor as well as someone with an irrational hatred towards the browncoats.
BrownBug, don't let the hate filled rant of one person who obviously has a personal issue with browncoats to sway you from spreading the word. We're doing good works and that's what matters.
Grotz, welcome to the board and out of "lurk" mode. Glad to have you posting with us. Hope you will continue to do so. 
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some good responses, saying im "not without sympathy" by no means is "entriely agree with" what he says. The one blessing of fireflyis that donning a browncoat is nowhere near asbad as putting a mars bar on your head and talking kaplunk (star trek). for me howeverserenity was never asgoodas firefly, it lacked some of the warmth, pacing andcharacterisations of theprogram, it wasgreat but firefly always shines above for me.
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Also, one thing about that list was that it's all stuff from the last forty years. The oldest movie on that list is 2001, but everything else if ater STAR WARS in 77.
What about A TRIP TO THE MOON, METROPOLIS, THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING MAN or FORBIDDEN PLANET? Each of those films are amazing in their own right (I shudder to think that they're actually remaking THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL), but they seem to be forgotten in the annals of legitimate science fiction cinema.
If one or more of those titles were on that list, I would have taken the list more seriously.
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Another thing coming up from this is result (especially in the SFX forum) is the block voting some fans will do (ie: voting over and over again because they can). Shouldn't we only vote once? it'd be a lot fairer then and be more...truthful.
Oh, and i think the whole fuss happened because the media twisted the word "Favorite" (ie: whats your FAVOURITE sci fi movie) into "Greatest. Don't trust everything you read in the media." 
Just my two cents on the matter.
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This is something I've been looking to weigh in on for a while now. First off, I am a fan of both Star Wars and Serenity. As much as I enjoy the latter I really don't believe it is in the same class as the former. Star Wars was a revolutionary film which went on to be a cultural phenomenon and could rightly be called one of the best films ever made. Serenity, while being well written and having a great cast, was not particularly original and didn't have the same spark that the series did. I realize that SW is take on several old themes but it was repackaged and presented at exactly the right time.
Bringing up box office totals or popularity is a moot point. We all know that just because something is popular does not make it high quality...reality TV anyone? Which leads me into my next point. Since everyone in this poll is allowed to vote as often as they like it stands to reason that SW fans could overun the voting it they chose to. While the verse has a very dedicated and rabid fanbase there is simply no competition in terms of sheer numbers. My only expanation is that after 30 years and 6 films, SW fans don't feel the need to legitimize their film's place in movie history. I can understand how others might view Browncoat zeal as a desperate attempt to make their film appear more relevent than it really is.
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That blogger sounds like a sore loser to me. Most likely a Star Wars fan who got his nose bloodied a little bit. And I don't entirely agree with his thinking on us making people not want to watch it based on our actions. If anything we are helping. You know there are people out there who saw the article and are like, "Serenity, never heard of it. If people think it is better than Star Wars then I gonna have to check it out and see what the fuss is about."
And the poll that the BBC is doing, I wouldn't put to much faith into that either. At over 26,000 votes, I can almost guarantee you that some of them have probably never heard of Serenity much less even seen Serenity, and Star Wars or Matrix are the only names that jump out at them.
Our numbers may not be many, but we're persistent.
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::deep breath::
Okay........
Look. IMHO, that guy did NOT sound like a sore loser. He sounded like somebody who liked a movie and was annoyed that, from his perspective, the rabidity of some fans MAY have scared people away from seeing Serenity. Personally, I disagree, and say that it was only because of our rabidity that a movie was even made, and since I, a browncoat who latches on to every news item about Firefly or Serenity, didn't hear about any death threats made to movie critics who didn't give Serenity a good enough review, it's a safe bet that the majority of the population was also just as unaware of any such events that may or may not have occurred, and therefore, could not have been put off by this.
So I disagree, but I still don't think he's a "pissed off Star Wars fan". He sounds like a guy who enjoyed Serenity but has a clear head. Now, do I think that Serenity is the greatest as a sci fi film? Maybe not. But it's definitely my favorite, and I feel it is FAR more emotionally relevant to the average human being than Star Wars. I love the originals (sorry, but I can't stand the new ones - "Ani, Ani, are you all right?" Goddammit, I know the lines suck, but you had to steal material from CPR training? 
), but they just do not speak to me on the same level that Firefly and Serenity did.
However, I just thought of something:
Most/all of us have seen Firefly. Before I saw Firefly, I saw Serenity. I LOVED it. But I didn't connect with it even an eighth as deeply until after I watched all 14 episodes. So even if it's my favorite sci fi (not fantasy, that's Lord of the Rings!) movie with a necessary background in the tv show, it's still my favorite sci fi movie, and I'll vote as such.
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I still say Serenity was a B A D, bad movie. The fact that Serenity is held in higher regard than Troll with Sonny Bono and Attack of the Killer Clowns from Outer Space is absurd.
Firefly : GOOD :: Serenity : BAD
And sine I REALLY like Firefly, according to this analogy I REALLY dislike Serenity.
Good point about this possibly making a joke about Firefly here though. Hopefully most of the idiot jokers and nay sayers of the 'verse won't even know that Firefly and Serenity is the same thing until it's too late and they've been infected with the Firefly bug. The only thing that could have made that movie enjoyable is a full frontal of Christine Hendricks.
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