Serentiy beats out Stars Wars

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SYNTHETIC

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 1:09 PM

Serenity named top sci-fi movie by the BBC.

I dunno if this has already been talked about, but here it is. This is big time, and some killer recognition.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm

oh and here is the SFX where the polle came from.

http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=lord_of_the_fireflies

SHUKES

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 1:54 PM

It wasn't even close, thats really brilliant! I love star wars, more the original trilogy than the phantom trilogy, but i would say i prefer serenity it just suits me more i suppose.

THOLO

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 2:31 PM

I think Star Wars has better SFX than Serenity. But the thing that make Serentiy win for me (and why i voted for it) is because the SFX have a story with it, which for me make it a stronger film.

come on there are sfx errors in the movie, Inara holding a bow instead of her bolt thrower. stuff like that Lucas would never let fly. Yes he has a bigger budget, but remember the first one(IV -1977) You never saw stuff like that? thats why it still holds up.

now the new (greedo shoots first) updated one we wont get into.

thats why i think if they make a special edition dvd of serenity, fix the boo-boo's

another poll
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm

Keep Flying!!

SERENITYINSCOTLAND

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 2:54 PM

Like the creator of this thread said, I'm not sure if this has been discussed but...

Over on Whedonesque (which I only check for news about Whedon, I'm not a member), there seems to be absolute outrage erupting that Serenity had the nerve to beat Star Wars to the top. Members are muttering about 'ballot stuffing' and the disgrace of it all. So what? As a fandom struggling to get a sequel, anything we can do to up the profile of Serenity is a great thing from my point of view. And if ballot stuffing this poll has done that well thats fine by me. I mean, the Guardian (UK broadsheet newspaper) has had two articles about Serenity this week as a result, as well as the story linked above appearing on BBC.co.uk. Star Wars doesn't need any publicity! And if people want to argue about the artistic merits of the films then thats one thing, but saying that this sort of fan behaviour is bad for the film is downright stupid IMO. If a major newspaper ends an article by saying that Serenity is well worth renting (despite the ridiculous statement that it tails off towards the last half hour), then that may well be a few more Browncoats being awakened out there. Which is nothing but a good thing!

By the way, on artistic merits, Serenity beats any of the individual Star Wars films hands down. Not as a influence on pop culture, but as a piece of art.

DEEPGIRL187

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 3:08 PM

I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way I did.

I am a member on Whedonesque, and frankly, the whole discussion is sad to me. It's one poll on one website people. And while I wasn't a member of the fandom at the time, I can almost guarantee that similar things happened back when Buffy and Angel were on (not that I'm bashing those shows in any way).

I didn't want to say it explicitly on Whedonesque, but sometimes it seems like some of the posters aren't that fond of Browncoats. Simon explained to me once that this was a result of their being so many different types of Joss-fans on the site (Buffy and Angel fans, X-Men, Browncoats, among others). I don't know, all of this just makes me glad I'm a member here. You can get slammed pretty hard over there for not following the group consensus. Which at the current point in time, doesn't seem to be too Browncoat-friendly.

Edit: Of course, while posting this I am fervently hoping this doesn't get me banned over there. You never know...

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SERENITYINSCOTLAND

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 4:29 PM

I totally agree with you Deepgirl. I remember a while back when Whedonesque bashed away at that Orson Scott guy for some of his views, which distressed a number of Browncoats that shared his opinions. Whilst Whedonesque is an excellent site (unparalled for news about Joss, the actors and their projects) I find FFF.net a much more welcoming place. Also, some of the comments on Whedonesque about the Star Wars vs. Serenity issue arent very constructive. One example I read today:

"Is Serenity better than Star Wars? No."

Well reasoned and eloquent. I guess there must be a much more varied Whedon-based fandom over there like you said, which means Serenity won't always be their first priority. Those die hard Alien Resurrection fans desparately hoping for Joss to pen another sequel etc.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 4:30 PM

It's nice as a bit of publicity, to raise the profile. But I don't think anyone is taking it too seriously.

If Serenity had achieved that rank without ballot-stuffing, that would be awesome. But I think we all know that's not the case.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

GORRAMREAVERS

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 5:01 PM

I loved Serenity but I would never put it in the top 5 all-time scifi movies. Some of these polls are so lame.

"..it is my very favorite gun."

DECAF

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:00 PM

I tend to agree that Serenity shouldn't be considered the best sci-fi movie ever, but then I don't think Star Wars should either. If you want to make the argument that best should be gauged by its impact on culture, then perhaps, but then isn't a rabid fanbase a symptom of that effect? Did Star Wars make a cultural impact because it educated people?

Honestly, I don't think George Lucas can write dialogue worth a Sunday comic strip (though granted its not the only skill needed to be successful), so the question to me is how is Star Wars considered so potent? Maybe someone can enlighten me, because it seems to me that the reason is the fans, and I think that same is true for Serenity.

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BIGMAN

Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:04 PM

i think Star Wars was a truly significant moment for cinema and I loved the origional three movies. But Serenity(actually I think we really mean Fire Fly) is much better written and the verse is much more of an interesting setting. some of the Fire Fly episodes are poetic and dare I say it literature if you get my meaning. Star wars was just cowboys and Indians in space.
Oh and on the subject of Boo Boos what about the Stormtrooper bumping his head on the door frame on the Death Star SW episode 1V

he's lookin to shoot some folk

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