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Iran holds British sailors hostage

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Friday, March 30, 2007 12:37 AM

Been a week now. Iran backed out of a pledge to release a female sailor. Said it was because England was making such a 'fuss' over the issue. Gee, can't imagene why. You illegally take military personel from another country, in waters which aren't yours..... folks are going to get cranky. Well, some might. Currently, the U.K. is slightly ahead of France at getting pissed off over such things.

I'm not saying it'll take 444 days until the Brit sailors are released....but it sure might seem that way.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, March 30, 2007 3:46 AM

As much as English people rub me the wrong way Great Britain has always stood shoulder to shoulder and toe to toe with America. That's good enough for me. When England makes their move I am in full support with their action. I will also let my politicians in New Mexico know to give full support. I have an idea we just retired the USS John F. Kennedy. Now the biggest liberal of all time President Roosevelt (FDR) gave the Brits a lend lease deal on ships before WW2. So we kinda give em the Kennedy for dollar a month. Sounds good to me. Will even throw in a Tomcat or two.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Friday, March 30, 2007 1:21 PM

Seems not too long ago, we'd be seeing British flags flying all around here by now, a sign of Americans support for the sailors and G.B. overall.

So far, it's been strangely quiet. I wonder how long that lasts.





People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, March 30, 2007 3:02 PM

Why are these Britich sailors " confessing"??? Confessing to what? They havent even been tortured ( as far as we can tell from the videos), but they're confessing???. They look like they're scared shitless...I don't understand...some of them are Marines.

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Friday, March 30, 2007 3:03 PM

Well, most in the Arab world know that Britain is the week link for the western world. It is because of this the Brits will continue to be kidnapped, humiliated, and deballed. The problem seems to be that the Brits keep confusing impotency with being a more civilized country. I am certain if the British had half the resolve that the US has, they wouldn't be getting smacked around by a country still in the primate stage of social order.

Shit, who looks weaker to the Arabs, France or England? Should the US start looking for a stronger partner in this conflict? Maybe Australia......I just think England is a shell of what it once was. They can't control the Muslim neighborhoods in their own country, how can they help control a Muslim nation?

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Friday, March 30, 2007 5:05 PM

Few things that have to be mentioned.

1) this was a UN mission so UN rules of enguagement apply. UN troops do not fire unless fired on, and yes that means they get captured all the time --- remember Kosovo. In the Balkans in the early days UN troops were seen as an easy place to get arms.

2) I seem to remember a 100 or so Americans being held for 444 days why didn't you rescue them... oh wait, I remember how well that worked.

3)The tube bombers killed fewer people than Tim McVeigh. So we have fewer problems with Muslims than you have with rednecks.

As to admissions. Iran did this before in 2004 and let everybody go after they "appologised." Since these folks haven't been allowed to see embassy staff who knows what they have been told? If someone told you that the deal to send you home was done and all you had to do was spout some rubbish on TV would you?

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Friday, March 30, 2007 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
If someone told you that the deal to send you home was done and all you had to do was spout some rubbish on TV would you?



It depends.....

If I was a captured as a civilian....I'd say or sign any frikkin' thing they want me to.

If I was a Marine, or Navy sailor, I would keep my mouth shut, and not allow myself to be used for propaganda purposes...Name, Rank & Serial Number is all they need to provide.

Fucking Iranians are savages...funding, training, & promoting TERROR & DEATH OF INNOCENTS all over the world! Blair ought to tell those camel-humpers he'll drop a nuke on their ass TONITE..,.if those folks aren't out by 5PM today!

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Friday, March 30, 2007 5:27 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Blair ought to tell those camel-humpers he'll drop a nuke on their ass TONITE..,.if those folks aren't out by 5PM today!

Spoken like a true reactionary simpleton. I share your anger at Iran's government, but not your need for innocent blood spilled.



Drive-by Chrisisall

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Friday, March 30, 2007 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Blair ought to tell those camel-humpers he'll drop a nuke on their ass TONITE..,.if those folks aren't out by 5PM today!

Spoken like a true reactionary simpleton. I share your anger at Iran's government, but not your need for innocent blood spilled.


...and replied to like a true naive dolt. You don't deal with the devil...you don't back down to savages...that is UNLESS YOU WANT endless bloodshed forever. These neaderthals see any hesitation as weakness...weakness breeds confidence which breeds agression...learn some history before calling me or anyone else a simpleton...although I do appreciate your obvious restraint from calling me worse.

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Friday, March 30, 2007 8:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShinyEd:
You don't deal with the devil...you don't back down to savages...that is UNLESS YOU WANT endless bloodshed forever. These neaderthals see any hesitation as weakness...weakness breeds confidence which breeds agression...learn some history before calling me or anyone else a simpleton...although I do appreciate your obvious restraint from calling me worse.

Seeing any people as different or less than you are underestimates the enemy, and their understanding of YOU, and gives them an advantage is all. They may be bent, but not stupid. We shouldn't play into their plan. They WANT a knee-jerk response from us- I say eff 'em up, but not the way they expect, and in a lasting fashion. To go in blazing is what they MUST want out of this.
IMO.

Sometimes naive dolt Chrisisall

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