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POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Thursday, October 2, 2025 14:14
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Originally posted by Malbadinlatin:
Sooo true SignyM. Cable news is as much to blame as movies. Look how cranky Bill Oreilly and Shawn Hannity make the Republicans. And look how bent Jon Stewart and Phil Maher make the Dems. Embracing these shows as THE TRUTH inhibits gaining knowlege from people with different points of view.
Hear, hear!
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Originally posted by Geezer:
I think a lot of the problem with supposed mis-direction of threads is that different folks care about different parts of some of the broader ranging issues we discuss. If I want to talk about tax complexity and someone comes in with a post about electronic security of tax data, it's probably because that's the part of "tax" they are concerned about, not because they work for H&R Block and don't want discussion of simpler tax forms.
I think this is a good insight, Geezer. This is sort of the message board equivalent of the single-issue voter. But I think that sometimes this is done innocently, and sometimes not. Some people see it as a contribution to the overall discussion, whereas others...well, they just want to force their agenda into the spotlight.
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Unfortunately, as noted in another thread, some of us have pretty set opinions of others of us. You begin to expect an argument rather than a discussion, and get too touchy. When I get this way I usually try to just not deal with the other person for a while.
Right, and this is why I would love for us to get above the camps we seem to have divided ourselves into. There are some people on the boards who, if they see person X, will just lay into that person for no other reason than that that person is on their personal shit list. Who knows how they got there? Some people are so bad that they will actually follow their person X around the boards being snarky and insulting. And I wish that we could get beyond that. Of course, the more innocent thing is something like, "Oh yeah, there's so-and-so who always disagrees with me. He's going to do it again any minute now." Talk about priming the pump for flame wars.
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Fortunately, I don't have cable TV. And I found when my remote sensor stopped working, my TV watching went way down. And now I have more time and feel so much more connected with life.
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I have no problem with people who disagree. I have problems with people who lie, mislead, mischaracterize, bias etc.
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"if lefties were thought to be lazy, imbecilic lawbreakers, and persecuted accordingly, it's pretty clear that they're the Other to the righties. They've been dehumanized"
Wrong. They have been generalized or at worst stereotyped. If the consensus is that lefties are *fill in the blank*, there probably is a reason for that generalization. The fact that righties are aware of the lefties shortcummings- does not DEHUMANIZE the lefties. The righties still know the lefties are human....just shittier, weaker, or both....You sound like a fag parent that doesnt believe in keeping score at Little League, because it may hurt the losing children's FEEEEEELINNNNNGSSS!!!...get a life. Dehumanized.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
In fact, to continue the thought on understanding versus responding to. In some cases, our responses actually prevent understanding because we may be so intent on responding as we see ourselves (a homosexual, a woman, a white guy) that we simply reinforce stereotypes in our own head. Perhaps we may even precipitate the reaction that we fear.
I think you're right about this. One of my favorite quotes is from Anthony de Mello: "We see people and things not as they are but as we are."
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RUE-"Fortunately, I don't have cable TV."
No shit. With all the fucking retarded shit that comes out of your keyboard., I would have bet my life that you live in a fucking barn.
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And here we have a fine example of one of the cruder forms of troll, who, at this point, has been written off by everyone.
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One of the rare times I actually have responded to this one. But I see no outrage from - Causal, BDN, Sli... oh, I promised ... Geezer, or any of those who are SOOOOooooo outraged when it comes from the 'left'
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Originally posted by rue:
BTW, I think Europeans may have the advanatage over USers b/c they have to deal cheek by jowl with other cultures, religions and political systems every day.
That's one of the things I like about metro D.C. You are going to interact with other cultures, religions, etc. It's real difficult to find yourself stereotyping any particular type of folks when you work, play, eat, shop, whatever, with them.
One of the problems we have here in WWW world is that we never get to see the people we interact with as whole people. We just get a few random bits of information which don't give us a true picture of them in their entirety. And what we do see is usually something that they, and we, feel contentious about and are likely as not to disagree on. If we all got together for a drink without knowing who is who, we'd probably get along fine.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by rue:
Fortunately, I don't have cable TV. And I found when my remote sensor stopped working, my TV watching went way down. And now I have more time and feel so much more connected with life.
Isn't it nice? I try to tell people about this experience on occasion, and they think I'm being some kind of culture snob or something. You just don't realize the warping effect TV can have until you've been away from it for a bit. Then you can't believe you ever wasted so much time with it.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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