Troll Threshold
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UPDATED: Thursday, October 2, 2025 14:14
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Rue called Geezer "Slick" and then Geezer "responded in kind"...
I would like to point out that Rue has called me "Slick" for quite a while and has refused several requests to not do so. Rue also has unflattering nicknames for other people on this forum.
And yet I get referred to as "a name-calling jerk"? Curious. Looks like double standard time again.
Consider how you would feel if every post someone addressed to you was prefaced with "SickoM".
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Slick, I'll stop calling you that when you stop using multiple tactics to right-wing-nut bias, divert, misinform and otherwise derail every discussion you get into. AS YOU KNOW, there are more ways to BE a troll than use an inoffensive nick-name.
POOR INNOCENT LITTLE VICTIM. Yes, please play the pity card, and the shift blame card. You do that kind of thing so well. 
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Geezer, may I politely point out that you're mischaracterizing my position as a "double standard"? I said that I didn't think name-calling was acceptable, starting with "Slick". So- time out for YOU, old buddy! I'll not bother to respond to any more of your posts in this thread.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Rue- tsk tsk tsk. Yeah, I get it. Geezer is a troll so what? "He started it!" It never worked before and it ain't gonna work now. Take the high road.
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
The first step to changing a group from the other - to be feared and defended against - begins when you personally know someone from that group. I think it's a pretty safe bet that if you asked an American, "Do you know any Christians personally?" they would answer in the affirmative since about eighty percent of Americans self-identify as Christian. I would expect an alternative question, "Do you know any atheists personally?" to elicit a much smaller affirmative response for a variety of reasons. If the first conversation you've ever had with an atheist occurs on a message board then I'd argue atheists are still the other. If the first conversation you've ever had with a Christian occurs on a message board then I'd really like to know where you grew up, because I'd put the odds on that at slim to none.
When someone from a strong majority, a majority that is a cultural norm, tells a member of a non-cultural norm minority that they need to be able to see things from his/her perspective it highlights a lack of awareness. Everyone in this country is exposed to the perspective of the cultural norm on a daily basis. You can't escape from it. That is what it means to be the cultural norm.
But that doesn't mean that those in the majority aren't viewed as The Other by those in the minority. Has every atheist had a conversation with a theist? Almost certainly. But that's not sufficient for knowing a theist, let alone being friends with someone. I think both the majority and the minority see the other group as The Other. It's not just that one side is guilty and the other isn't.
As well, the status of a certain thing as majority opinion does not in any way entail that the non-holders of that opinion understand it. What we need is for everyone to try to understand everyone. Tolerance, respect, understanding--these are things we should all be striving for.
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Can I just suggest that we use this very thread as an example of what not to do? Heavens. Even in a thread where we're supposed to be talking about how not to relate poorly, we're relating poorly. And people wonder why I'm so cynical? Read the interactions on this. Damned. Thread.
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Originally posted by Causal:
But that doesn't mean that those in the majority aren't viewed as The Other by those in the minority. Has every atheist had a conversation with a theist? Almost certainly. But that's not sufficient for knowing a theist, let alone being friends with someone. I think both the majority and the minority see the other group as The Other. It's not just that one side is guilty and the other isn't.
I disagree. And I think it's on a pretty fundamental level that relates to privilege. I think that you are basing your statements off the assumption of a level playing field between members of a minority group and members of a majority group. Which, in my opinion, does not exist. It's not even that the field isn't level, it's that the teams are playing with different equipment to different rules in different leagues of a different sport.
Try the following statement on for size and let me know if you agree or disagree: I, as a heterosexual man, have to think about things from a homosexual perspective in order to successfully navigate my daily life.
I disagree with that statement. I can live my entire life never once having to think about things from the perspective of a homosexual man in order to successfully navigate situations. Because I am a member of the norm. I can always operate from a heterosexual perspective without being accused of rocking the boat. I can openly acknowledge my sexuality without causing a stir. Etc.
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Aye Aye sir.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Rue- tsk tsk tsk. Yeah, I get it. Geezer is a troll so what? "He started it!" It never worked before and it ain't gonna work now. Take the high road.
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"Even in a thread where we're supposed to be talking about how not to relate poorly, we're relating poorly."
YUP
"Geezer, may I politely point out that you're mischaracterizing my position as a "double standard"? I said that I didn't think name-calling was acceptable, starting with "Slick"."
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Causal,
If you want to feel what being in the minority feels like, take a stroll through a barrio some day. Just you by yourself. Now imagine living your life there are being dependent on that society for your job, your housing and everything else that keeps you alive.
Which is not to say that people of the barrio would do the things white folk have done to them. But it's a thought experiment to help you understand how alienated and helpless you might feel if you even thought the society was stacked against you - as a minority.
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