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Big Damn Scribblers Question: Do you fudge the timeline? And what about alternate timelines?

POSTED BY: KayleeGirl
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 19:12
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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
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And the Book thing on Haven - he also might have known these people beforehand, and there was likely a big damn rescue/adventure the crew got into there, which would account for how friendly the crew is with those folks in a short time.



In the novel, there is mention of the fact that Mal and the crew knew about Haven, because a number of folk there are ex-Browncoats. They took a musician from New Melbourne there, on the run from the mob, which was when Book decided to get off. Nobody's written this episode yet, (that I know of) and it would fit as a canon piece.

Kayleelove - Jayne at Christmas? Actually, I see him as particularly nasty and gruff at that time, because he misses home and won't admit it. Unless he gets a parcel from his Ma.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:43 PM

>What counts as AU in your eyes?

I'm going to guess that this is addressed to me?

>I'm writing a fic that is post-BDM, and starts off canon in pairing. But because it is post-BDM, the characters have to move on in their lives. So if Jayne then meets someone, does this make it AU?

Jayne wasn't 'with' anyone in the series or movie (unless you count his whores) so I wouldn't consider him meeting someone as AU. Jumping Kaylee with inadequate explanation of what happened with her and Simon (and subsequently taking them so far out of character as to be believable) I would consider AU.

Someone else probably has another opinion.


>Incidentally - Rayne

Heh. I feel the same way about Jayne/Kaylee. River/Jayne isn't really that far off for me either. But, I really prefer cannon pairings and skip everything else.

>If we are confined only to the series and BDM for our storylines, it doesn't allow for a lot of character development.

Well, yes, but we do have to use as a base (if you even care about such things. . . and some don't) how the characters are portrayed in the series and film and 'develop' them in a believable way. Some people aren't too picky about characterization. Some are.



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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:03 AM

Post BDM, therefore avoiding the whole problem.
When I started writing, the established story lines of the series and movie just felt sacrosanct. I refuse to screw around with them... for now.

I would hesitate to use anything other than scripts or official word from the creators/actors as canon. Go directly to the source and remember they were making it up as they went along.
A year being more than 365 days in one spot and then using earth standard to measure age at the same time is not out of the question.. though it makes small clinky noises emanate from my ears.

Rayne? EEEwwww. I have gotten as close to that one as I am willing to go.
I prefer porn with a plot, thanks. Just introduce a new character into the mix and have done with it. It's what the Writers would have done, after all. They are not in a hermetically sealed environment. Remember Tracy? How's about Nandi?

Maybe set ten years post BDM with a WHOLE LOT of personal growth on both parts, but not as things sat at the end of the series or movie.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:37 AM

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Originally posted by JamesTheDark:
While it's August and Summer on Londinum, it might be cold as hell and winter on Beaumonde.



Just a little nitpick here, but while it's summer on Londinum, it's winter on Londinum too... the other side of the world (northern vs. southern hemisphere) is always in the opposite season. Like when it's winter in North America, it's summer in South America. At least this holds for planets with a tilted axis and where the sun is near enough to make a difference in the seasons, which I would think is most of 'em.


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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Rayne? EEEwwww. I have gotten as close to that one as I am willing to go.
I prefer porn with a plot, thanks. Just introduce a new character into the mix and have done with it. It's what the Writers would have done, after all. They are not in a hermetically sealed environment. Remember Tracy? How's about Nandi?



Amen to that!

Personally, I prefer no porn at all - at least not right away. Once again, I'm a canon kinda guy - which means I'm all for canon pairings amongst the crew (that is M/I, W/Z and K/S). But since we're talking timeline here rather than pairings, I'll just say that I'm pecking away at a River/OC story set a month post-BDM - which in my opinion is the most appropriate period for any Jayne/OC or River/OC business. (Although Jayne is probably the kinda guy who would do a one-night stand before his lover found out about his crush on Vera.)

SpaceAnjl, this brings me to answer your question: Nope, don't think you'd have a problem with the storyline you have in mind. If it's post-BDM, the sky's the limit - unless a miracle happens and a BiggerDM comes out!!! (Hey, it happened with Star Trek....)



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Mal, Inara
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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:17 PM

Er, Steamer, I STARTED that storyline about 90,000 words or so back. It's been in the BSR near a year...


And don't let StinkingRose fool ya. She writes good stuff. Any porn is germane to the plot

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:30 PM

=O Sheesh, talk about your surging epics....

Generally speaking, I'm not a big porn fan. I'm a lot bigger on fluff - rather see how the characters interact ere the sheets open up. But that's another topic (which I hope we'll discuss sooner or later).



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You shouldn't cross.
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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:42 PM

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Originally posted by Steamer:
=O Sheesh, talk about your surging epics....





I'm trying to single-handedly write the second series, is all. And there's very little porn in it. (Honest - just don't read 'Good Clean Fun') Character development takes more than a few hundred words if you want to make it meaningful. It's just...I was writing Jayne. Everyone ELSE is quite happy just talking or flirting or angsting or exchanging soppy looks. With the big guy, porn just happens. But he did cook her dinner first.





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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:59 PM

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Originally posted by Alliethorn7:
Granted, there's a pretty damn good chanc that the Tams are Buddhist. Stand to reason, though, that Christmas survived-



According to one of my favorite authors, Spider Robinson, Buddhism and Christianity are not incompatible, at least from a Buddhist standpoint.
He should know, his wife is a Buddhist monk. According to him, Buddha never claimed to be God-- the goal of Buddhism is to become an " enlightened" man. ( Pardon, me, person. Oink!) It deals in the internal, the personal. Enlightenment could lead one to believe in Christ, and/or some denomination of Christianity as an external truth.

Not sure if that would work from a Christian POV, with its " No one comes to the Father but thru me." sorta doctrines.

So maybe they're Buddhists first, who follow some Christian practices.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:12 PM

And on another point, most of my stuff is set before the BDM; I LIKE Wash and Book, both of 'em. Some of it is set during the War. The rest are set somewhere between the episodes-- the cameras weren't there the days my stories happened. Sometimes , I'll tie a story to an episode-- one piece started out to be the day Badger gave the crew the job in the pilot. But not always.

My one Christmas piece is set somewhere post-BDM: Wash's death is its motivation.

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