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Shepard Book

POSTED BY: jaglee
UPDATED: Friday, November 9, 2007 19:01
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Monday, March 19, 2007 2:00 PM

At the risk of sounding insufferably snarky, I feel like I have to mention a pet peeve.

The word is "shepherd". The title is "Shepherd Book".

It's really not all that hard to remember when you realize it's a shortened form of "sheep herder". Yes, it looks funny because of the 'ph' in the middle that does NOT sound like 'f', but that's because the 'p' is from 'sheep' and the 'h' is from 'herd'.

"Shepard" is the last name of the first American in space. It doesn't have anything to do with Mr. Book, religion, or sheep.

Okay, rant over. Sorry for the pedantic-ness.

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I'm pointin' right at it!

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Monday, March 19, 2007 4:25 PM

felt like i had to put in my two cents worth. just finished watching safe for the 15th time.
not my favorite episode, but important for storyline purposes. book knows too much about weapons/criminals/alliance. i think former fed operative with ties to bounty hunting meshes with what early says as well.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:40 PM

NEW THEORY!!
ok, i just finished watching first episode- serenity 1&2 again... what if book is actually an undercover alliance operative who is sent to track the tams. and his cover is being from the abbey. he basically waits for an opportune time. if the series went further, i bet he comes to grips about whether he wants to help the alliance and in the end turns against the feds, which is why he is killed in the bdm, which is counter to what you would expect from the safe episode where it seems like book is some very valued member of the alliance. just for arguments sake, consider this: if one assumes book is actually a fed undercover operative who intentionally got on board serenity, one could easily assume that the lawman who also gets on doesn't know anything about book at all. heck, who knows if book sent the message to the alliance? just saying anything is possible. yes, i'm obsessed.

i'll be in my bunk

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lawman:
if one assumes book is actually a fed undercover operative who intentionally got on board serenity, one could easily assume that the lawman who also gets on doesn't know anything about book at all. heck, who knows if book sent the message to the alliance? just saying anything is possible. yes, i'm obsessed.



i think the pilot was awesome. and that you were SUPPOSED to suspect book to a certain degree, which brought comedy when Book tells Mal that he has the wrong man when Mal apprehends Simon... but it doesnt really play out in the longrun, unfortunately.

As with most alternate theories about the characters, the movie kinda kills possibilities.

I can certainly believe that a lone loose cannon like the guy in the pilot wouldnt have known of Book's identity... but the Operative most certainly would have known of all the players, and wouldnt have deliberately killed an undercover, especially one that only served to aid his tracking of Simon and River.

So regardless of Book's relations to the Alliance, it was (mostly) in the past, as he would have had a hostile/neutral position with the alliance when he was killed.

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Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:20 PM

exactly. but what if between the last episode and bdm, book decides that he doesn't want to work for the feds after all. that his relationships built during the time on serenity convinces him that crew is decent and feds are wrong. a lot can happen between tv and bdm. also, when they do the job in ariel, interesting that book goes off and meditates on some rock. can't meditate on serenity? when jayne says it beats sittin. wash says it is sitting. i think it could be argued that book is meeting with feds and maybe even cutting ties with feds. book's past is a mystery, but not enough details to completely write the undercover operative theory.

i'll be in my bunk

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Monday, March 26, 2007 7:54 PM

regarding book: why does early say, that book is no shepherd? early has no reason to lie about book. he clearly recognizes book.

i'll be in my bunk.

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Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:36 PM

Early could have done some crazy bounty hunter backround check and find out all kinds o shit about everyone on the ship, he found them and I think thats proof enough that Early has skills and connections. He may not have recognized Book but he might have stumbled upon his other more 'interesting' life that we will never ever REALLY know of. Speculations can only go so far.

That nerdy hat

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Monday, August 20, 2007 1:37 AM

-vump! here you go sirthomas!

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Monday, August 20, 2007 2:00 AM

I don’t think he was an operative. Well rephrasing that, he could have possible been gathering Intel on Mal and Zoe, but I don’t think he would be there for Simon and River because he boarded the ship before they did.

But I honestly think he was trying to escape his past. I think that he did know all about Miranda and quite possibly had a hand in its creation, that would explain the Safe episode and the ident card.

Also Shepard new that everyone wanted River off the ship, but for some reason Mal kept keeping her around, Mal believed in her for some reason or another. And this would cause Shepard to tell him that he didn’t care what Mal believed but to just believe.


Happiness is a Warm Gun...

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:24 PM

Just something interesting, I know of a site- www.stillflying.net/

The folks over at Virtual Fiefly have some very talented writers who have written a whole slew of fanfic in the form of episodes for tv. They rounded out season one and are far into season two, I cant get on the site from work, so i'm not sure how much they have added in the past few months.

They do have one episode in season two telling the possible story of Shepherd Book's past. all the episodes are well written, and the authors did a very good job keeping the characters as they were in the real Firefly. Overall an excellent read and a real treat to any Browncoat.

Note: late season two they begin adapting BDM into TV episodes.

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