What are the odds that Joss would allow a Double Dip?

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STORYMARK

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:51 PM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:
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Originally posted by DevonNite:
FollowMal, I don't think that Universal can do a miniseries. I believe that they only have the movie rights. I could be completely and totally wrong about this, but I think that this is the case.

I needed to be more specific I think, DevonNite.
Universal owns NBC/SciFi. They could do a miniseries on the channel. As for a direct to DVD movie...Uni itself could do that.

I agree that Uni owns the rights to Serenity. I think that the rights to Firefly are currently optioned to SciFi so that they can run the reruns.
I have no idea what that means for a miniseries of Firefly but I think that means Serenity is a possibility.

I meant to come back to the thread and add a thought I had....although genre tv is not mainstream ( say like, American Idol-bleh ) it is becoming more popular.
The hits Heroes and BSG are adding to the popularity of genre shows again. Perhaps a sea change is coming... as the way that folks watch tv ( more and more we're buying DVD's of shows we love ) and watch movies will open up new avenues for our beloved show.

One of the provisions of Fox selling the movie rights to Universal was that Universal cannot do any TV incarnation. So a TV mini is out, regardless of the title.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

THEONETRUEBIX

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:11 PM

Anyway, as someone else keeps saying, Universal's option on the actors allegedly expires in September. If so, I don't think a summer-released DVD is Universa testing the sales waters in order to make a decision about a sequel, because July/August/September is not enough of a timeframe in which they could make that decision.

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CHINDI

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:10 PM

Just tell me where to send the $$$ I will buy it.. for the extras (like a commentary me thinks) AND to support the 'verse.. whatever it takes.

AND cus I don't think JW would sell us out.. Universal maybe, but not Joss-

Chindi (or am I naive?)

FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
One of the provisions of Fox selling the movie rights to Universal was that Universal cannot do any TV incarnation. So a TV mini is out, regardless of the title.

Well, there you have it from someone way more experienced and knowledgeable than me. Looks as if I should realistically give up on a mini series.

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Originally posted by TheOneTrueBix:
Anyway, as someone else keeps saying, Universal's option on the actors allegedly expires in September. If so, I don't think a summer-released DVD is Universa testing the sales waters in order to make a decision about a sequel, because July/August/September is not enough of a timeframe in which they could make that decision.

Again, words from someone way more experienced and knowledgeable than me. So I guess I will be happy that I get a SE DVD. And enjoy my friends on this board.

*sigh*

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THEONETRUEBIX

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:24 PM

Like it or not, Uni gave us a comparatively skimpy DVD the first time around. They are a business, and they saw the sales, and they're doing the new version. It's pretty straightforward.

What I think is likely, whatever Uni has or hasn't said to Joss, is that Joss likely has a wishlist of what to put on the new edition, and will do however much or however little he's allowed to do to get that list of stuff onto it.

The industry is an industry. Right now all Joss can do is take advantage of having a special edition by exerting whatever influence he might hopefully have, and get it packed with stuff.

I mean, would you rather he boycotted the thing instead? Heh.

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TDBROWN

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:40 PM

I think the reason Joss is so jazzed about this is that he does have input on what will go in the SE. Sure, Universal wants to line their pockets, but evidently they still have faith in Joss, enough that they're letting him choose (or at least, have major input in) what will go in the SE. This is a good thing, and if they find their faith to be justified (i.e., high sales numbers for the SE), then they may be a tad more "friendly" toward Joss, if you know what i mean and I think you do

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

PENGUIN

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 PM

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But truthfully, who here won't buy it regardless the situation.

I will.. no hesitation.

Damned straight!

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ALLIETHORN7

Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:50 PM

If anyone is double dipping here, it's Universal. From what I know of Joss, he loves Firefly a slight more'n most of us. So, I doubt that he would use us like that- Universal, definitely. Joss... I just can't picture it, ya?
Still... I just forgot what I wanted to say, gorram it!

-Danny

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We'd have saved them if we Could,
But we still chose to Worship,
The Places where our Idols STOOD!!!
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!

DEVONNITE

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:47 AM

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Originally posted by theonetruebix:
Like it or not, Uni gave us a comparatively skimpy DVD the first time around. They are a business, and they saw the sales, and they're doing the new version. It's pretty straightforward.

What I think is likely, whatever Uni has or hasn't said to Joss, is that Joss likely has a wishlist of what to put on the new edition, and will do however much or however little he's allowed to do to get that list of stuff onto it.

The industry is an industry. Right now all Joss can do is take advantage of having a special edition by exerting whatever influence he might hopefully have, and get it packed with stuff.

I mean, would you rather he boycotted the thing instead? Heh.

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Hey BIX, I asked for input from those with much more info than I and I am glad you answered, however I think that you and some of the others have the wrong idea. I was not and would not complain about Joss Whedon. I was not complaining about the SE Serenity. As FollowMal has said I was looking for hope, as ill fated as it was, as misguided as it seems.

You might be right. This whole Special Edition thing may have nothing to do with any further products from Universal, but you can't blame a guy for having a little hope. So in my own way I think I will hold.

Thanks again for responding to my thread.

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:43 AM

<< Maybe if they realize that Serenity's poor box-office performance was the result of bad marketing on their part they'll be more apt to give us what we've been longing for. >>

See that right there is the crux of the matter. WE know the reason it failed was bad marketing.

I do not care that for a $39 million dollar movie they spent the right amount on marketing. They fd-up with how that money was spent. Why was the cast not introduced on the talk show circuit? Why didn't they introduce them via billboards with a slow build up. Make folks curious about the crew.

They could have asked us and we would have told them how to market this movie.

Pride however kept them from asking and from making the right choices. They don't understand that marketing was why the movie "failed" at the box office. Aside from them pulling it after a month, of course.

Still upset I never got my Serenity Billboard to see as I drove to work each day.

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