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More info on the Serenity from Universal. Including an awesome description of Serenity!

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UPDATED: Thursday, March 4, 2004 22:52
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Thursday, March 4, 2004 4:24 PM

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Originally posted by makerofpaths:
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Originally posted by kalathena:
Now see, I don't have any hang-ups about having two versions of the same story. I could care less about continuity, provided that what is presented on film is well written, well produced, well acted.



Thumbs up from me on that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that really, we fans of the TV series should be the least of Joss's worries. I know he may demur, but he's got to focus on the non-believers, so to speak and tell *them* a story. I'll gladly follow along.



Totally agree. If it gets our beloved show back on TV, I would even see the movie if it turned out to be written/cast based on that nightmare 'hollywoodized Firefly' thread a while back...*shivers*

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 4:36 PM

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As a psychic who knows what everyoe's thinking, River goes after him but nobody believes her (not even Simon).


No, no, no, if Joss was gonna do that, he'd name her Cassandra just like everyone else does (Including Joss!). Sorry, that story is OLDER THAN DIRT and I hope he doesn't use it.

--Kala

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:22 PM

I have no doubt that Alan and Ron will sign on before much longer, have no fear.

As for continuity between the original series, the movie and any subsequent series, I would like to see some continuity, but honestly, I am happy w/ whatever Joss and cast give us. Sure it would be nice to see the movie flow right from the original series, and then spinoff into a new TV series, but if it is not exactly the same as the series I can deal. Just so long as it is not too much.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:46 PM

glad to see i wasnt the only person worried about the lack of a wash or book mention joss had always said he'd only be on board if the whole cast were wheather or not he stands by his word we'll soon see.

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 7:17 PM

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Originally posted by infra172:

If I had to bet, I'd say the danger onboard would be Book. It'll turn out that he's a spy or working for the resistance or something.



I would guess that Book is the danger as well. Everyone is assuming that the movie title of Serenity refers to teh ship, I believe it refers to the battle of Serenity for which the ship is names.

My prediction is that Book was a high level officer on the winning side of Serenity. Guilt over the number of deaths on his hands led him to resign his commision and "get religon."

Being a high level officer, even a retired one, would explain Book's expertise with combat and weapons, as well as why his ID card gets him into places captain tight-pants could only dream of.

Given this prediction, I should think that Book is a given to feature prominatly in the movie.

I susepct that it is only a central role in the movie, as well as his status as the biggest "name" actor from the original cast, that is holding up announcement of Ron Glass' participation.

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 7:54 PM

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My prediction is that Book was a high level officer on the winning side of Serenity. Guilt over the number of deaths on his hands led him to resign his commision and "get religon."

Given this prediction, I should think that Book is a given to feature prominatly in the movie.



I think most people here already agree with your assessment of Book and his past. I think Books thoughts in OIS "I don't give half a hump if your innocent or not" were not directed at River but it was something he said during an interigation and he probably later found out that he condemned an innocent person.

But I think that if there was some reason Ron Glass couldn't be in the movie, they could write him out pretty easy. There have been several episodes where he played a very minor part or wasn't in the episode at all. If need be, the movie could focus on the Tam's and just give some excuse for Books absence.

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 9:26 PM

Yes, that's right. The greatest danger of all is aboard Serenity...

Wash is a killing machine. You can't stop him. Your neighbors can't stop him. You always wondered what Zoe saw in him, well now you'll all find out as they unveil that "Wash" is short for "Washinator".

Shadow puppets of DOOM!

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 9:29 PM

It's kind of ironic that the two people who clearly wanted to be part of a new Firefly project are the two names left out. I think that Joss and Universal went ahead with the announcement once they had everything formalized with the rest of the crew figuring everyone would not worry about Ron and Alan not being mentioned (everyone 'knows' they will be on board).

As to the "new" passangers, maybe it is a cunning bit of writing in which during the interviening months since OIS Simon and River found a place to hide out where they thought they were safe. Perhapse the movie will start out with either Simon coming to Mal asking to come back on board because they are now being chased again, or maybe Mal learns that Reavers are about to hit the new colony that Simon and River are hiding on and he decides to rescue them (not knowing that the Alliance is closing in on them as well).

One other note, IIRC, in the comentary for Serenity they make a point of saying that they don't actually destroy the Reaver ship or kill the Reavers. Since Mal said earlier that "if we run, they'll have to chase us. That's their way." Maybe the real danger to the crew is Serenity herself, as the Reavers are determined to destroy her because she did get away.

So many possibilities...

Traveller, if you go to Sparta, tell them you have seen us lying here as the Law commands.

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Thursday, March 4, 2004 10:52 PM

I think folks are reading the "threat from within" language too literaly. Simon and River are a threat, not because they do> anything to Serenity and her crew but because they are a magnet for the attention the crew has spent the previous 5 years avoiding. It has become increasingly difficult for the crew to "fly under the radar" with the Alliance's two most wanted aboard.

Of course, Joss is not above turining beloved characters into evil incarnate e.g. Willow, Angel, Fred etc. So I may be completely wrong, but I think those changes have been wrought only after the characters are so completely established in the audience's affection that the conversion and redepmtion of the characters is completely accepted by his audiences. While we, the original Browncoats are there on River and Simon and Book, the rest of the movie going public is not, so I hold by my original statements and argue both sides from a perverse lawyerly habit alone.

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