Jesus Appalled By Americans?

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NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Monday, March 12, 2007 1:22 AM

private time for prayer? They don't have recess? or lunch? or, Gawd help us, study hall?

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 12, 2007 2:00 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
He didn't say he 'speaks to Jesus'. That's why there's no 'speaks to Jesus' thread.

As to private time to pray, I'd like to think it means bowing towards Mecca and praying, or lighting incense and praying to your ancestors, meditating, or whatever your religion prescribes. It doesn't means Christian prayer.

Ok, answer me this, if you will. Does Edwards think he speaks TO Jesus or FOR Jesus. And which is worse ?

Seems to me, it's the latter w/ Edwards, and I think that's much worse.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

RUE

Monday, March 12, 2007 3:49 AM

So you concede there should be no "Edwards speaks to Jesus" thread? Good. At least we're getting somewhere.

BTW you may have noticed he doesn't claim to be speaking 'for' Jesus either. What he did was offer his opinion on what he thinks Jesus meant. Hence his words "I think ..."

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 12, 2007 9:42 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
So you concede there should be no "Edwards speaks to Jesus" thread? Good. At least we're getting somewhere.

BTW you may have noticed he doesn't claim to be speaking 'for' Jesus either. What he did was offer his opinion on what he thinks Jesus meant. Hence his words "I think ..."

Well, I think Selma Hayek wants to be my love slave.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

SHINYED

Monday, March 12, 2007 12:03 PM

Look up the words pompous & hypocrite in the dictionary and you'll see pretty-boy Edward's coiffed hairdo et al.

What a tool! He has the unmitigated nerve to admonish Americans????....let's do the math here...:

The guy made mega-millions blackmailing, shaking down, and suing every company & person that he encountered who had an insurance policy ( he's one of the main reasons that healthcare system in America is broken )...so much that he got himself that 97-room mansion compound that he needed so desperately ( wonder how much of HIS wealth is given to charity )...I guess that's where he came up with his first catchy, if not retarded slogan...the 2 Americas..ya know that one....there's one America for Edwards...mansions, estates, limos, free Brylcreme, etc etc...and then the "other" America for all the rest of us dumb, working slobs...and by the way John-boy....America is THE MOST GENEROUS nation on the planet....Americans donate more money to charity than ALL THE OTHER NATIONS on Earth combined!

SIGNYM

Monday, March 12, 2007 1:27 PM

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Vote for me, John Edwards - It's what Jesus would do. He told me so.-Geezer

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Does Edwards think he speaks TO Jesus or FOR Jesus. And which is worse ? Seems to me, it's the latter w/ Edwards, and I think that's much worse.-Auraptor

Geezer, Auraptor, since you seem so worried about Edwards speaking "for" Jesus, how do you feel about preachers? Just curious. More to the point, how do you feel about a candidate saying ...

"I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it"

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The guy made mega-millions blackmailing, shaking down, and suing every company & person that he encountered who had an insurance policy ( he's one of the main reasons that healthcare system in America is broken )...so much that he got himself that 97-room mansion compound that he needed so desperately ( wonder how much of HIS wealth is given to charity )...I guess that's where he came up with his first catchy, if not retarded slogan...the 2 Americas..ya know that one....there's one America for Edwards...mansions, estates, limos, free Brylcreme, etc etc.- ShinyEd

You sound jealous. Are you jealous?

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America is THE MOST GENEROUS nation on the planet....Americans donate more money to charity than ALL THE OTHER NATIONS on Earth combined!- ShinyEd

Nope, sorry.

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SHINYED

Monday, March 12, 2007 1:37 PM

SignyM....Thanks a lot! I'm sounding like PN? That's pretty scary! I don't reecall using phrases that PN loves like Nazis, or Zionist conspiracy, or so many of his imaginative reasons to hate. I just simply wanted to state that Edwards was, in my opinion, always an opportunist and abuser of America, and now he is also speaking for Jesus about our materialistic indulgences....sounds pretty demented, without even using any of PN's hyperbole.

SIGNYM

Monday, March 12, 2007 2:05 PM

ShniyEd- I edited that out prolly just as you posted because I thought it was unecessarily harsh. But yes, you and Auraptor are beginning to sound like PN. I don't think your position is fully thought out, for example Edwards being the reason why the health-care system is in crisis. Lets' look at Edward's trial history and how it affects the medical system

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More than half his cases were medical malpractice suits. Many involved infants born with brain damage or other serious conditions that entail a lifetime of expensive medical care.

You know, as a parent of a child brain-damaged during delivery who remained undx for years we face an entire life trying to provide for a child who will never be able to provide for herself. We filed a complaint against the HMO that botched the delivery and subsequent treatment but the system is stacked against us, from limiting the amount of award to the arbitration setup. (Sounds fair until you realize that victims come and go but the HMO is ALWAYS paying the judges) Did you know that illness is the MAJOR cause of bankruptcy? How does "the little guy" keep hospitals and insurance companies on the straight and narrow? Do you think they effectively police THEMSELVES? Do you think that "market forces" come into play when people are facing life-and-death decisions? To continue...

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Edwards won a $7 million verdict for the parents of a 16-year-old who'd killed himself the day after being dismissed from a psychiatric hospital, an incredibly difficult case to win, Dayton says, because in North Carolina the plaintiff must prove that the entire burden of negligence lies with the defendant. In 1997, Edwards successfully sued a doctor for $23 million on behalf of the parents of a baby severely brain damaged by oxygen deprivation during labor.

The defining case in Edwards' legal career wrapped up that same year. In 1993, a five-year-old girl named Valerie Lakey had been playing in a Wake County, N.C., wading pool when she became caught in an uncovered drain so forcefully that the suction pulled out most of her intestines. She survived but for the rest of her life will need to be hooked up to feeding tubes for 12 hours each night. Edwards filed suit on the Lakeys' behalf against Sta-Rite Industries, the Wisconsin corporation that manufactured the drain....Before trial, he discovered that 12 other children had suffered similar injuries from Sta-Rite drains.

Which of these cases should not have been brought to court? And if you don't like the civil trial system, what would you replace it with?

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

GEEZER

Monday, March 12, 2007 2:46 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Geezer, Auraptor, since you seem so worried about Edwards speaking "for" Jesus, how do you feel about preachers? Just curious. More to the point, how do you feel about a candidate saying ...

"I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it"

Politicians invoking God, whether it be Edwards or (I assume) Bush, is an ancient and dishonorable tradition. I've often wondered how God manages to be on both sides of so many elections, wars, etc. without going schitzo. It's just noise to me, and I chuckle at it and go on.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

SIGNYM

Monday, March 12, 2007 3:15 PM

Geezer- what Edwards did, I think, was to express his moral stance (or express what he would like others to think are his moral underpinnings.) That's different than Bush believing that God is paving his path to power. Edwards' statement gave me more of an idea of his moral compass, assuming that he's being honest. Bush's statement was that of a man bent on accruing power, but with out any insight as to what he would do with that power.

But to get back to the original topic of the thread- Are you religious? Are you Christian? How do YOU think Americans stack up to the message of Jesus?

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