Creative Firefly fans: Want to help?

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KURUKAMI

Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:19 PM

Something occurred to me, which is non-Firefly but tied into Escape Velocity.

Are you creating the plug-in for the Mac or the PC? If for the Mac, is there any program which would allow a Mac plug-in to be used on a PC?

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

GUNRUNNER

Wednesday, March 3, 2004 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by Kurukami:
Are you creating the plug-in for the Mac or the PC? If for the Mac, is there any program which would allow a Mac plug-in to be used on a PC?

It comes with EV. Look in your EVN folder for a convert plug-ins EXE. After you "un-stuff" (they use stffit expander for plugs) drag them in to the exe, and they are converted. Easy as lying!

ANKHAGOGO

Thursday, March 4, 2004 12:40 AM

Well, this is (obviously) not original to me, but what about a place like Bartertown, from Beyond Thunderdome?

Call it Banyon.It's a rinky-dink planet, one of the last semi-civilized worlds before hitting the rim. There's probably be a lot of settlers making it their last stopover before they got to their final destination. The population is wildly varied,leaning more toward the unsavory/eccentric/socially disillusioned side.

90% of all commerce is carried out via the barter system, and the 10% that's not tends to take place in the smaller outlying towns.
The main town of Jenkins is set in a long valley, surrounded on three sides by mountains of the Rocky type, which is typical of the planet-wide topography. Most merchants accept cash money only when there's no other option, but they'll jack the price up when they do.
Cash or trade is perfectly acceptable for docking fees.

The 45th is a bar run by a Browncoat veteran, for Browncoat veterans & their friends. The owner, McDougal, only hires vets, as well as using only vets for all his business needs. It's clean, if not too well-lit, and there are also rooms to let on the second floor. Being a vet'll get you one free beer, and don't try to b.s. McDougal about it unless you're not too fond of your teeth.

I enjoy the whole idea of the barter system, frankly. Not sure I'd be too good at it --too much of a packrat -- but the idea intrigues me.

"You are such a boo."

SAMURAIX47

Thursday, March 4, 2004 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by Kurukami:
Ember: In a binary system ravaged by the long-ago supernova of one of its suns, Ember is one of the few fragments still capable of maintaining some form of life

Sorry to be all uber-physics-geek, but if a star in a binary pair goes supernova, it would become a neutron star or a blackhole. According to Chandrasekar's Limit, a star of 3 solar masses that supernovas would become a black hole, 1.44 solar masses becomes a neutron star. Stars smaller than 1.44 solar masses like our sun don't supernova, but age to become a white dwarf, and it that white dwarf is part of a binary, it could suck material from the other until its mass increased to a point causing it to supernova spewing all kinds of heavy elements and star stuff. That nebula could then provide material for a new star system. Whether or not the other star would survive the nova I do not know. Any planets in the system would be wiped out by the nova and its burnedout remnant might be captured by the blackhole. If you're gonna have a binary star system, better to make it a stable star system.

http://www.synapses.co.uk/astro/blholes.html
http://www.synapses.co.uk/astro/multinov.html

Jaymes

FLAMETREE

Thursday, March 4, 2004 10:07 AM

Xin Shanghai (new shanghai)

trading, manufacturing, black market goods,
illegal and banned technology.
heavily urbanised with lots of badily built high rise building. surrounded by market gardens.

Local politics is chinese based, organised along clan lines. The alliance allows in to operate because it enables illegal or dangerous technology / medical technology to be developed and tested.

FLAMETREE

Thursday, March 4, 2004 10:07 AM

Xin Shanghai (new shanghai)

trading, manufacturing, black market goods,
illegal and banned technology.
heavily urbanised with lots of badily built high rise building. surrounded by market gardens.

Local politics is chinese based, organised along clan lines. The alliance allows in to operate because it enables illegal or dangerous technology / medical technology to be developed and tested.

KURUKAMI

Thursday, March 4, 2004 4:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SamuraiX47:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kurukami:
Ember: In a binary system ravaged by the long-ago supernova of one of its suns, Ember is one of the few fragments still capable of maintaining some form of life

Sorry to be all uber-physics-geek, but if a star in a binary pair goes supernova, it would become a neutron star or a blackhole. According to Chandrasekar's Limit, a star of 3 solar masses that supernovas would become a black hole, 1.44 solar masses becomes a neutron star. Stars smaller than 1.44 solar masses like our sun don't supernova, but age to become a white dwarf, and it that white dwarf is part of a binary, it could suck material from the other until its mass increased to a point causing it to supernova spewing all kinds of heavy elements and star stuff. That nebula could then provide material for a new star system. Whether or not the other star would survive the nova I do not know. Any planets in the system would be wiped out by the nova and its burnedout remnant might be captured by the blackhole. If you're gonna have a binary star system, better to make it a stable star system.

http://www.synapses.co.uk/astro/blholes.html
http://www.synapses.co.uk/astro/multinov.html

No problem. I'm definitely not as up on the astrophysics as you are, but modifying the description doesn't strike me as a problem. Perhaps Ember could be a fragment of the neutron star -- which explains its small size but near-Terran gravity?

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

LINDLEY

Thursday, March 4, 2004 4:57 PM

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Here's a question for you: in your conversion, does the Sol system even exist? That is, obviously Earth is gone/burnt out/whatever, but what about Europa and Mars? After all, they were in the original one... and all you'd really have to change is to replace the Earth planet-icon with a dead world that was an irradiated wasteland.

I haven't decided on that yet. Most likely, I'll include it, but the visbit setting will be off to start with (so the location of Earth is "lost".)

Perhaps there'll be a mission at some point where you're hired by an archeologist to try to find it.

Maybe it'll be dead-center of Reaver territory....oh, the possibilities.

As for Mac/PC: I'm developing on a Mac, but as stated, converting to a Windows-usable format is pretty much just drag-and-drop.

SAMURAIX47

Thursday, March 4, 2004 5:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kurukami:
Perhaps Ember could be a fragment of the neutron star -- which explains its small size but near-Terran gravity?

Hmmm... Or better yet, a fragment of neutronium becomes the core for the planet... the gravity of neutron material would be too intense, but put it in the core and have thick enough layer of dirt around it and you could have 1 g gravity on a small moon-size planet.

Jaymes

KURUKAMI

Thursday, March 4, 2004 5:35 PM

That could definitely work. And (correct me if I'm wrong, but this is kinda where I based the idea) supernovas tend to form all kinds of unusual, rare and/or exotic elements when they go up. That explains the numerous mining interests there...

Place it in a nebula, where there's kind of a proto-system, and it could serve as a well-protected Fed foundation out on the frontier.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

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