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Inara?

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UPDATED: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:31
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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:46 AM

No actually I rather like hearing it. :)

You're absolutely right about Inara not telling anyone her business, but I wish she would. lmao It'd make her all the more alluring, or would it? Mal... Mal really got what he needed in the "Hearts of Gold" episode and honestly it's my favorite. You see Inara's true self, you see her break... such a moment in the show, the last disc of the box set was truly my favorite. Joss said the music in "The Message" was changed or was basically the "goodbye" music to the series because they knew the cancellation was coming. Inara and River have to be my favorite characters, probably because they are the two that cause the most drama or chaos on the ship. Inara with her love spats with the Captain, and River for her destructive personalities.

I don't know about Inara's parents or past, but I do really craved to find out if River/Simon got to confront their parents... I believe that would've been an episode to truly remember. I think Joss would've had fun writing and it, and not only that but it would've been very awesome to see what Captain Malcom Reynolds would've had to say to the parents when they would've (I'm assuming here) disowned Simon and River. To be honest I think the Captain thinks his crew as his family, he didn't seem to give two craps when Wash died in the movie, but other than that he really does take care of everyone the best he can. Admirable and lucky are they for being on his ship, I'm sure River and Simon are in the best of places. Inara... I think she is too, hopefully we find out sooner or later what is the deal with her and her feelings; nothing is more complex than a companion in love.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 12:32 PM

Mal & Inara are very attracted to eachother, and they love eachother deeply, but it's a love that will never blossom.
He cannot put out of his mind the hundreds or thousands of men she's bedded, and she, despite her longing for him, knows that he'll never accept her past. It's a real Greek tragedy.
As Serenity ends she tells Mal she might stay on the ship, and he says good answer....so maybe there is hope for them afterall.....I think she finally realizes that she wants real love & a real relationship...something she'll never know as a companion.


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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Mal & Inara are very attracted to eachother, and they love eachother deeply, but it's a love that will never blossom.
He cannot put out of his mind the hundreds or thousands of men she's bedded, and she, despite her longing for him, knows that he'll never accept her past.




I know what you mean about her past and Mal not accepting it but I think that Heart of Gold was, in a way, the turning point so that Mal could respect Inara's past. When you meet all of these ladies, it's easier to see that whoring is their job, not the only think they think about. I mean they were interested to have Book say a few words and they wanted to raise the child

For Mal to think that Inara could have had sex with all those people without attachment, is just so hard for him to get his head around. The fact is Inara and Mal have feelings that are much more than any sexual vibe because they are rooted in friendship--she already has a deep respect for him, so the next step before they get together is for him to respect her past. All of the arguing in the world wouldn't have convinced him, but introducing him to Mandi's world did.

As Mandi explains to Mal, she doesn't give anything to a man that she doesn't have to... so really it reiterates that it's only a job, a way to get by in a rough world. I think Mal saw that Mandi was much like Mal, a strong independent leader taking care of her crew. I don't think Mal could really have slept with her if he didn't respect her and you know he respects her when he goes to avenge her death.

So yeah I loved Heart of Gold because of finally seeing the real Inara in her break down and even though it puts Inara back a couple steps in being able to admit her feelings to the Mal, it finally gives Mal a leap forward in being able to accept Inara. You can see at the end of the episode, he's ready to "be truthful" about his feelings, now if he hadn't just slept with one of her best friends (however necessary it was for him to respect whores), they might have gotten somewhere *frustrated sigh*




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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 6:03 PM

hey a little cliche, but wouldn't it be funny if there was a fanfic written about Serenity landing in a Las Vegas type planet and Inara and Mal finding themselves hiding out from thugs in a chapel, perhaps accidentally getting hitched and arguing the whole time? :)

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 7:35 PM

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Originally posted by KayleeLove:

and how in the world did whoring become a thing of great respectability in the future?



When did slavery come back around to being acceptable? These questions, and more, on "Whedon, You Bastard!"

I think the show gives us even less of Inara's past than it does Book's. We know he never married (but he still could have had kids), and we know he was once involved in some sort of position where he got a lot of information about crime and battles. All we really know about Inara is that she is a Companion from Sihnon.


Rules and voting: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22892

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by yinyang:

When did slavery come back around to being acceptable? These questions, and more, on "Whedon, You Bastard!"




Hey can you bump it? I can't see Whedon, You Bastard in the top 100

Thanks

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:37 PM

And the rant begins.....
First off Inara is my LEAST favourite Character, I suppose I'm an overly logical person (dear friends have called me cold hearted because of it...gotta love 'em) Inara has no real purpose for being on the ship. She's completely useless (as she can't fight, how many times was the captain all "go to your shuttle fly away from danger?!? PLUS when the reavers were passing by in the Pilot the 'needle' she was holding was not a cure, it was something to induce death should the Reavers take the ship) not to mention that her secretive-ness was never really as over played as the Shepherds, so there isn't even that certain allure that comes with Books character. She's supposed to be all knowing and good at reading people but *she can't even hide her own emotions* OUR MRS REYNOLDS she obviously rolls her eyes and looks nervous when the doctor approaches her to be examined. She couldnt be MORE obvious. (Going off the idea that she doesn't want anyone to know she kissed Mal) I don't understand how she is supposed to be the 'cool cummber' of the show, when she blatanly reveals her weaknesses (ie. Mal) Personally I have found ways to 'romanticize' how her character SHOULD have been, even though I can plainly see shes a warm cuddily person. She's only good for the minor sex appeal/tension. Preferences are preferences, she only proves to useful on the Train Job and even then... :P. I would love to give her character some sort of detachment from humanity due to her 'job' but I don't think its what the show was really going for. She always stands up for who she is/ what she does and takes an annoying amount of pride in it.

*** But to talk about the actual question at hand...Inara wants to hide all of her weaknesses in the hopes of appearing strong and independant hence why she won't let Mal take care of her***

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:00 PM

See I think the fact that Inara's way of brushing off medical exams and such is just the kind of way Joss would do something like this. To the casual eye everything is perfectly explainable. However, if there was a secret that kept her from wanting to be examined we'd all see later how she avoided it every time.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:39 AM

That's Joss for you! ^.^ Magnificent it is to see how things unravel and how we clearly saw something and never gave it two thoughts. Damn Fox... damn them to hades!

BAH!

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Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:48 AM

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Originally posted by OrangeHat:
And the rant begins.....
First off Inara is my LEAST favourite Character, I suppose I'm an overly logical person (dear friends have called me cold hearted because of it...gotta love 'em) Inara has no real purpose for being on the ship. She's completely useless (as she can't fight, how many times was the captain all "go to your shuttle fly away from danger?!?



By "no purpose for being on the ship", do you mean "for being on the show" or why do you point this out?

Because, logically, Inara's only purpose on the ship is to pay rent for the shuttle she uses, since she's a passenger. All her extra input is just that, extra, and brought on by the purely emotional connections she has forged on the ship.


Her friendship with Kaylee is a source of support for her, she's nearly the only person on the ship who doesn't put pressure of some sort on Simon and she's definitely the only person on the ship with who Mal can be someone other than the "Captain", because she's not crew.



And as for her clumsy evasions in "Our Mrs. Reynolds", I think you're ignoring that she's still drugged up, just as fuzzy in the head as Mal is in those first moments, slurring speech and slow on the uptake. Generally, Inara is very good at hiding her emotions or at least making it clear that they are her business and hers alone.



Why do you find the pride she takes in her job and the way she stands up for herself to be "annoying"? :)

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