A little help, please...
POSTED BY: Jstn
UPDATED: Friday, August 17, 2007 20:54
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Originally posted by out2theblack:
Hey JSTN ,
Thanks for coming by . We hope you'll stick around...Bring some of your folk over here with you...Sure there are more Browncoats among your ranks .
If you have not yet seen the Browncoat DVD production , " Done The Impossible " , you Really Must !
You'll be inspired...Maybe to go on to greater success yourself...
I live in the city where 'Surface' and 'Dawson's Creek' and 'One Tree Hill' have been produced...I used to work at that studio , but in film production , with the exception of an occasional made-for-TV movie...
I liked watching 'Surface' when it was on . It was fun to see what locations were being utilized , and how they were strung together to create the show .
I used to happen by some of the locations from time to time , when production was under way .
One of my flying buds flew his airplane in one of the episodes . That's one of the reasons I'd like the DVD set , because we've had some great times with that flying machine . I'm sure you know the episode... Umm , Lake Bell was particularly fine in that one... I never ran into her anywhere , but during December 2005 , I was at Barnes & Noble , checking out the Sci-Fi mags for coverage of our then-recently-issued SERENITY movie... Bingo , found a nice photo on a magazine cover , flipped open to the middle where they had some articles about things of current interest , and on that particular page , besides a blurb and photos of our movie , was a photo of Carter Jenkins...
Here's where it gets uncanny...A kid behind me says , " Sir , which magazine is that ? " , and the voice seemed oddly familiar for some reason .
I turned to face him , and show him the magazine , and when I saw his face , I had to smile , because it WAS Carter Jenkins ! And standing just behind him was Leighton ! I smiled and nodded to her , also . She flashed a smile and greeting , too , and I must concur with 6String , she is definitely a very pretty young lady .
After 'Surface' was cancelled , I remember seeing a story in our local paper in the Entertainment section , which I saved at the time , but I'm not sure if I still have it...
The story was about your group , and I think it was a wire-service story , so you've probably seen it already . Anyway , I have checked out your site in the past , and I will again , soon .
I hope you'll have some success in getting some closure to your show . I always wished they'd handled it better in the first place .
Perhaps your best chance would be to persuade NBC/Universal to give you a made-for-TV movie to wrap up the loose ends and conclude the show properly . Then it could subsequently be re-aired by Sci-Fi , which NBC/Universal owns .
I'm STILL deeply disappointed about how 'Earth2' was also not seen-off as it should have been...But , at least 'Earth2' got about twice as many episodes as we got with 'Firefly' .
Anyway , you guys really need to build up your fan-base , because I know a lot of people DID like 'Surface' , and if enough of the DVD sets get sold , who knows , stranger things HAVE happened...
Get your folk to watch " Done The Impossible " , because you might learn some things about how you can make something happen...
Thanks for your enthusiasm , JSTN . And thanks for being ONE OF US !
Thanks for this post, Out. I'm so pleased you came over to check out our site, as well. Not to criticize this one, but I prefer our "set-up" Having to bump every thread just to get it to stay up for a day, is quite frustrating. As we have so many forums with different subjects, we have many "front pages" so it's not hard to get read.
Anyway, I think the article you read about us was from Amy Hotz. She writes for a Wilmington area newspaper, which is also online as starnewsonline. It was quite a thrill to be quoted in a newspaper, but the biggest rushes I've had during this campaign were when I found emails, first from Dayna, Jonas Pates mom, and then one from Jonas, himself, in my inbox.
They are such nice and down to Earth
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Originally posted by Jstn:
Thanks for this post, Out. I'm so pleased you came over to check out our site, as well. Not to criticize this one, but I prefer our "set-up" Having to bump every thread just to get it to stay up for a day, is quite frustrating. As we have so many forums with different subjects, we have many "front pages" so it's not hard to get read.
Anyway, I think the article you read about us was from Amy Hotz. She writes for a Wilmington area newspaper, which is also online as starnewsonline. It was quite a thrill to be quoted in a newspaper, but the biggest rushes I've had during this campaign were when I found emails, first from Dayna, Jonas Pates mom, and then one from Jonas, himself, in my inbox.
They are such nice and down to Earth (LOLOL) people, it was quite an honor to be given the privilege of being able to write to them.
That has much to do with my continuing to look for ways to assist them in getting their show back. I know for a fact, that the brothers Pate have not given up on this show, so I was hoping that Mr Whedon might be able to give them some advice or help with that.
We have run several efforts to convince NBC, however we haven't gone after Universal to try to convince them to make us a movie. Sounds like my next plan. I'll write to Jonas and ask for his thoughts on this.
My small criticism aside, i must admit I'm having a great time at this site, and have suggested to all Surface fans that they get their butts over here, as well. Like I told them, you'd be hard-pressed to find a nicer, and more intelligent group of posters on the web. I mean that. - Jstn
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Ni Hao , JSTN !
Happy to see you bopping back in and bumping this thread...
Yep , the story was from Amy Hotz . My recollection was imperfect , so I didn't include that detail without being sure , because I didn't still have the story right in front of me .
Have you actually met Amy ? I don't mind going on record and saying that she's a pretty fabulous young woman .
Some years ago , Amy's editor was kind of new in town , and was out to one of the Star Wars 'prequels' , the second one as I recall .
His name is Jeff Hidek , and he's pretty cool in his own right .
Anyway , for the last of the 'prequels' , the paper was doing a story about folk who were old enough to have seen the original Star Wars as a first-run movie in its initial release .
E-gads ! , as much as I hate to admit it , I
' represent that statement '. They wanted folk to send in an email with their Star Wars memories , and what their experiences of that film had been like . Being a geek in good standing , I sent in an email to the requisite address , and figured , " Well , so much for that..." .
I was a bit surprised to receive a subsequent email from Amy , and she wanted my contact phone # , and said that she and Jeff had liked my story , and wanted me to come in to be interviewed and photographed for the story . I knew they were on to me ( as a geek ) when they said they wanted me to bring a 'prop' of some kind , a toy or other piece of memorabilia...
Being so obliged , I showed up with my big-ass X-wing and did my duty...
I was pretty impressed with Amy . There was a fairly exhaustive interview , then I went into another area and met the photographer...
So , to keep this long story from getting much longer...cutting to the chase...
A while back , I emailed Amy again , and asked her if she knew what a 'Browncoat' is...
I was kinda surprised when she admitted that she didn't...But being the inquisitive sort , of course she had to dance the wiki-google and check us out...
Anyway , when we have some Browncoat action happening here in town , I think we can count on Ms. Hotz to get the word out...
I'm planning to see that she gets a boxset...
Wouldn't want her to seem culturally-deprived , now would we ?
Oh yeah , JSTN ,
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Thanks Out - I just dropped by with enough time to read this, but will be back later with a longer response and a cool experience I had today, regarding the DVD. Later - Jstn
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Still way too busy for a longer post, but I wanted to let you guys know that thanks to someone on your board posting about it, I scored my own copy of Serenity last night. Got it on sale at Best Buy for only $9.95 They had two copies left, one after I left. LOLOL
Just for G.P. I checked Circuit City today, in my travels, and they had several copies at $14.95
Thanks for the hot tip. (I'll have to look for that thread again and thank him personally)
I can hardly wait to watch it again, this time with my 3D surround sound cranked up. LOLOLOL
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Out - Love your Star Wars/Amy Hotz story. Just can't resist the chance to brag about the size of your X-Wing, huh? LOLOL
I can't match that, but I could tell you that I was interviewed by phone, by Ms Hotz, for the original story about us (That's me she quoted) Nimmers.
Furthermore, athough I hadn't spoken to her in months, I was really surprised one day when she phoned seeking information on our online petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?surface
(Currently at over 43,700)
I redirected her to my friend Brandon, who put the petition up, I was really flattered that she had remembered me, though. She sounds like a wonderful woman. I wish I could have met her, too.
I tried to find the original article, but it slipped too far down the list, and I don't think it's available. I may have copied it onto our board, so I'll look for it later.
Great idea on the boxset. I wish I weren't so broke all the time, or I'd do the same with Surface.
I'm so happy you liked my new sig. Where do you guys come up with all he great ones here? I know they're from the show, but is there a list here somewhere?
You are correct about the G.E./NBC/'Versal (he,he) connections. We were considering sending our dissappointment in Reilly, by email, to the head guys at G.E. They should know, he's attempting to trash NBC.
We at Surface would be happy to get ANYTHING from our show. Even a comic book would be something. Little rubber Nims? Anything? But overall, most of us feel a movie that will close out all the leftover unresolved issues from the show. There were a LOT of those. The fact that you guys had gotten your movie, is what led me here. If you guys are campaigning for something specific and want our support, I will be more than happy to rally our troops to your cause as well. Of course, it would be great if that support goes both ways. The petition link above is a fast and easy way you can add your voice to ours. (hint. hint LOL)
Just let me know, what you guys are shooting for next. I can mass-mail everyone signed up at our site for assistance. We LOVE to email (and even snail mail) ROFL
I've done a lot of flying myself, including several small plane adventures. Grew up next door to the local airport. My best friend from several years ago was a pilot, who studied acrobatics as soon as he got his licence. Last time we were up, I got to do some stunts, with his help, of course. Also, got to do the zero-gravity thing. What a rush. If you haven't done that, I suggest you beg the pilot to do it with you. A Cessena 182 is capable of a 10 to 15 second experience. Very cool watching stuff "float" in the cabin. LOLOL
Well that will do it for now. Hopefully, someone will see fit to bump my thread a few more times. Still looking for a way to contact Mr Whedon, so I can connect him with Jonas Pate.
Thanks for putting up with more of my ramblings.
Firefly fans totally rock. - Jstn
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This is the Amy Hotz article, in it's entirity, only with my screen name substituted for my real one....
Amy Hotz
Resurface 'Surface,' fans say
The NBC family-oriented science fiction series that filmed in Wilmington earlier this year was not picked up for a new season. But what really ticks off these fans, said SaveSurface.com co-founder Jstn, is the last episode left everybody hanging.
"It was really a callous thing to do," he said from his home in California. "I just can't believe people feel so deep about it."
No pun intended, I'm sure.
Earlier this summer, I wrote about an Internet petition generated by the fans who frequent that Web site. The goal was to get so many "signatures," that NBC corporate folks couldn't ignore Surface's popularity and perhaps bring it back.
The corporate folks could ignore the 30,051 (so far) signatures, however. And did.
That was Project Nim. The Save Surface fans have now embarked upon the Great Tsunami Campaign. From Sept. 15 until Sept. 22, which just happens to be the official start of the fall season, fans are invited to send Kevin Reilly, an NBC official, at least two e-mails a day. In addition, they encourage others fans to also send out as many postcards as they can with water-related photos to Reilly.
They want to flood Reilly's in-box and snail mail box. Thus the name, tsunami.
According to a press release, "The idea to be expressed is that we are still around (just in case he thought we were done) and that we will be boycotting any new NBC programing until he gives Surface the chance and support it deserved ... We are to be firm and angry even, but not nasty. We want the brothers Pate (creators of Surface) to be able to work there in the future and not blacklisted because they are associated with a nasty group of fans."
Wow. That's a lot of passion for a TV show. Why all the effort?
Personally, Jstn misses how the show brought him and his 9-year-old daughter (she's 10 now) together every week - except during the Olympics and Christmas.
"We used to snuggle up every week and watch this together, it was a bonding thing," he said.
Generally speaking, the fans are ticked that they'll never know if Nim will survive all the locals who think he's a man killer or if Dr. Laura Daughtery will become a famous biologist. They even get the satisfaction of finding out if Wilmington survives that giant computer-generated tsunami. (Or was it generated by hordes of the giant sea monsters?)
"It's got a wide appeal," he said. "It's got great special effects, I liked how the plots moved independently but were connected. The creature was cute."
"We want to let him know we're really serious about this," Jstn said about Reilly.
Here's the information for any other fans interested in bugging a corporate guy:
kevin.reilly@nbcuni.com
Kevin Reilly
NBC
3000 W. Alameda Room A-209
Burbank, CA
91523
To find out what else Jstn and gang are up to, visit www.savesurface.com.
And, if you'd like to relive the glory days, the complete season of Surface was released on DVD August 15, complete with deleted scenes, cast interviews and a behind-the-scenes look at its special effects.
The bad news for locally-produced TV shows just keeps multiplying.
Low Country Treasure Quest on WILM is getting bumped for the U.S. Open and for syndicated shows from Capitol Broadcasting for the rest of September.
John Bankson, the show's host and producer, said he hopes to land on another outlet soon. But there's really no way to tell where Wilmington's own Antiques Roadshow-esq production will end up.
Amy Hotz: 343-2099
amy.hotz@starnewsonline.com
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Have you had any response from Reilly?
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Originally posted by Milt:
Have you had any response from Reilly?
Directly no. Although if he reads his emails and would know I am responsible for many of his headaches (LOL) for some odd reason he hasn't bothered to respond to me or at our site.
However, we have kept up on some of his interview comments. My favorite (of course) is one where he said he couldn't get us (Surface fans) out of his inbox. I couldn't find that interview, but I did find this one, where he mentions us indirectly. It was from a while back, but please take note of his condesending attitude ("the fish show") towards us and Heist viewers. He may have thought he was being funny, but to us it spoke volumes about his crappy attitude. And as for "closure" in our series, well, don't even get me started.
Here's the Reilly interview...
NBC president Kevin Reilly told reporters that the network is committed to keeping viewers happy if they invest their time watching the new serialized series Heroes, about people in different parts of the world who suddenly discover they have super powers. The network has left viewers dangling in recent seasons by canceling serialized shows such as Heist and Surface before they completed their storylines.
"In the case of the fish show [Surface], there were a lot of people that did want it to continue, but that did have closure," Reilly said in defense of the network's actions during the Television Critics Association's summer press tour in Pasadena, Calif., last month. "We did air a final episode. We did not yank that prematurely. And in the case of Heist, although I thought it was very promising, it didn't take, and we wrote personal letters to the two viewers that were watching. So they were covered," he added, with tongue in cheek.
Heroes will begin on Sept. 25 with a two-hour pilot movie. "We don't like pissing off the customers," Reilly said. "And, by the way, I get the e-mails, OK? I wake up in the morning and I get, 'Dear Moron.' We know that takes a toll, but the nature of television is when you're taking risks, you hope you take a risk. You may end up with Heist, or you may end up with Lost or My Name Is Earl. So I'd rather risk the upside. ... Any show that gets canceled has had people who are upset or people who are angry who have invested in it. That's just the nature of what we do."
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[bold]Still looking for someone here with a connect to Mr Whedon. Nobody?[/bold]
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I wish... 
Sorry, but I'm not aware of any specific member here who has direct connections to Joss. Maybe someone from Whedonesque, I dunno.
"Dude, you never wanna fuck with a Browncoat, man." - Kevin Smith
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