Subtle yet interesting show observations -- post yours

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JERAXUS

Monday, January 29, 2007 10:25 AM

you are an idiot

check the pilot episode for serenity - mal pushes the toilet away and zips up when wash calls him on the coms to tell him theres a mole on board

loser

play with the bestdie like the rest

VIOLYNS

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:18 AM

I really love this thread. I had read up there somewhere someone saying that Jayne wears his hat that he got in "The Message" in the BDM when leaving the ship for the Maidenhead. He is throwing up a hood that is around his neck, I believe. It's shown here in the Propstore of London pics.

And on another note: a few friends and I have discussed the "popcorn ball" artwork in the common area in the series. It's best seen at the beginning of "Safe" during Simon and River's argument.

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"I'll never cease to fly if held down."

SEANCJ

Friday, February 9, 2007 4:55 AM

Mal's scars in the BDM!
Did you all notice that Mal has all the appropriate scars from the series knife/sword/gunshot wounds!
You can see them in the scene where he gets up to answer Inara's 'wave'.
He has the right shoulder/upper chest scar from Crowe's thrown blade.
He has the right side scar from Atherton's tricksy sword play.
AND...
He has the left shoulder/upper arm scar from Patient's gun shot graze.
That is just priceless that they would remember all of those!
I just watched 'Done The Impossible' and 'Serenity'. Yep, I'm addicted!

"You wanna run this ship?"
"Yes"
"Well,...you can't"

SEANCJ

Friday, February 9, 2007 4:59 AM

Oh, I also noticed that they missed a scene in Serenity where they were supposed to superimpose Inara's 'dart/crossbow/thingy' over the regular bow and arrow she was really carrying. If you watch closely, you can see her clearly holding a bow with an arrow pointing towards the door. It happens shortly before the fighting starts.

"You wanna run this ship?"
"Yes"
"Well,...you can't"

CLJOHNSTON108

Friday, February 9, 2007 3:16 PM

As an Atheist, I really enjoy the digs Joss and his writers take at religion (some more subtle than others).

My favorite was Simon's line in "War Stories", after Book's invoked the writings of Shan Yu: "Sadistic crap legitimized by florid prose. ... Tell me you're not a fan."

In talking with other less-than-religious Browncoats, I'm apparently the only one who saw it as a direct swipe at the Bible.

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"Spry for a dead fella!"

DONCOAT

Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:59 AM

I watched "Our Mrs. Reynolds" last night in high def (on UHD channel). I noticed two things I hadn't caught before.

During the celebration at the start, just after Jayne gets his rain stick, we see a quick shot of Book. He's giving the last rites to the bodies of the four banditos that our BDHs have just filled with lead.

At the end, as Mal and Jayne discuss how to attack the chop shop net, Jayne asks if he should shoot at the control room. Mal says no, and tells him to shoot one of the "breakers" instead. Which Jayne does... but then he puts three rounds into the control room window, delivering a coup de grace to the bad guys. Jayne follows orders... in his own special way.

(Of course I'd seen Jayne shoot the window before. What I hadn't noticed is that he did so against Mal's orders, sort of.)

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I'm pointin' right at it!

YARDARM

Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by NateM:
I also really liked the recurring theme of being lost in the woods. A couple characters say that a bunch of times through the series and I thought it linked them all together.

Aha!

When River says this to Simon (in 'Safe', I think), She says it with exactly the same intonation as Inara says it to Simon in 'Serenity'.

She does this sort of thing a few times.

As for subtle - check out the eyes. Some of the reaction shots are the finest I have ever seen. Mal's look of multiple incomprehension at Saffron at the beginning of 'Our Mrs Reynolds' being a standout example.

Gorram it, I love this show.

'I banged my head is all'

GOCRO

Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:09 AM

Quote:
Now, River, smart as she is, ain't no Doctor. Even if she knew what the young Intern was going to administer, she doesn't know Alprazaline, combined with droxine, is going to kill the man. And she really couldn't have read the Intern's mind about it either, as the poor lad was himself oblivious to the fact that this combination is lethal!

Couldn't she just have read the dying mans mind, if she can sense thoughts she must also then be able to sense the absence of thoughts. But then again does an aenesthesized patient have thoughts? Maybe he still has a "presence".

KAYLEELOVE

Friday, February 16, 2007 9:04 PM

I love the dinasaurs on the dash board in front of Mal at the very end of Serenity. A great tribute to Wash.

Now lots of little things about Inara and Mal:

I can see how some people are calling Inara an ice queen but it's exactly this detachment from truely intimate relationships that gives her something in common with Mal and the perfect reason for him to come to her shuttle for timeout. Both of their professions require detachment--Mal couldn't confide in the others whom he had to lead and he knew that she couldn't become romantically attached to him because of her profession. The closer they get, the more they fight--I mean really did Mal have to call her a whore when she was showing him to hold the sword? at that moment he was totally avoiding eye contact as if he knew he was out of line but uncomfortable getting close to her, then also he could have kissed her at the end of Mrs. Reynolds when she admits she didn't trip but he choses to pretend he thinks she kissed Saffron, As we are reminded in Ariel, he's smart enough to figure out the real chain of events So Mal was as icy if not icier than Inara

In Shindig, when Kaylee is pointing out all the fine dresses, he seems really uncomfortable; maybe by the fact that he wouldn't be able to provide all the nice fine things that Inara has. (remember how desperate they were for a job) Maybe thinking he can't offer Inara the kind of life she really wants

Notice how Inara liked to choose virgins most of the time? It seemed to me she always had a warm, gentle and genuinely giving character but she was only giving to others and not receiving. You can see she is somewhat unsatisfied with her profession from the beginning of the series. She never expected herself to feel so hollow from not receiving true love herself.

Inara once told Book that she loved Serenity from the first moment she saw it but I think she's talking about her love for the captain, especially after seeing them talk after the sword fight and she looks him in the eye and says "why would I want to leave serenity" Serenity is what it is because of Mal's love of freedom and sense of what's right, making it a home. Loving what Serenity stands for is loving Mal's whole character

At that point, Mal could have swept Inara off her feet if he had just taken charge of the situation like he does in everything else. But the mix of his respect for women and insecurities about himself just don't get him the point of telling her not to leave. Like he tells Saffron in Mrs. Reynolds "I would make a terrible husband."

Inara's training as a companion made her more than just a great sex partner, ironically it makes her the perfect wife (I can't help thinking of Mal's coming to her shuttle is like Honey, I'm home from a hard day of shootin, give me something to think about besides work)

She's smart, caring, volunteering to watch River and not really a leader type like Mal but it's like she's the ying for Mal's yang

I want to see more!!

GOODMECHANIC

Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:52 AM

A couple that I caught, having watched the series about 1 1/2 times in the past week:

In the pilot episode "Serenity", in one of the shots of Inara's shuttle flying across Persephone, one of the distant background ships traveling from screen lower left to upper left bears a very strong resemblance to a Klingon Bird-of-Prey.

In the teaser for "Our Mrs. Reynolds", immediately after Jayne and Mal draw their guns, there's a close-up shot of Jayne's revolver, with Jayne's face in the background. Take a close look at the revolver, and count the visible chambers. Jayne's gun holds significantly more than six bullets! It's at least an eight-shooter; possibly as much as ten.

"Half of writing history is hiding the truth."

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