Joss won't be making 'Wonder Woman'
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UPDATED: Monday, February 19, 2007 07:53
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The following, I'm sure, never actually happened:
Joss: Well, here's the script. It's awesome. Just like the last 42 drafts.
Studio: I don't know, John. You keep writing scripts where something cool happens, and I don't know that the public wants that.
Joss: Well, I've been doing this a few years--
Studio: Yes, huge success on TV and all that, we know all about it, George. Comics world god, fanboys, whatever. But could you write something a little more... y'know... a little less "good," a little more "Hulk?"
Joss: Uh... (a single man-tear rolls down his cheek)
Studio: Or what about... what was that movie... Alien Resurrection? I loved that movie. Write something like that.
Joss: (kills everyone in the room)
........... and, scene.
(p.s. can we have Goners by the end of 2007? Please? Pretty please? I'll be your best friend, Joss. I'm an excellent cook, everyone says so)
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Originally posted by mima:
desktop hippie- I get that you're saying he's too action/humor/character-devastating for the franchise, but I think he would be true to the original and made it fresh. I believe in joss. I would be really really really interested in reading his script/vision after the studio makes their attempt.
To be honest, I wasn't really commenting on Joss. Just making a funny
I'm a huge Buffy fan, and the idea of the Buffy-esque pitches Joss might have made to the studio always amused me. Personally, I'm dissapointed he won't be making the movie as I would have loved to have seen what he did with the character. Still, I have Goners to look forward to now. Bet Mia is way cooler than Wonder Woman!
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I hate to commit heresy in this room, but I'm gonna have to say this:
Joss's biggest success commercially was probably Buffy and the spin-offs. And personally, I think that Firefly was his best work. Better than the BDM I think.
On other words, episodic character driven TV is his best medium. Major motion pictures don't seem to really jibe with his talents. He's just not a Spielberg or Scorcese or Cameron.
Sure, The Movies are all sexy and glamorous and all, but considering how GOOD Fiefly is--especially compared to Alien IV--I really think TV is where he belongs, professionally and creatively.
When I listen to the BSG commentary podcast each week, I'm always struck by how much fun they seem to be having, how hard they are working, and how little the network seems to interfere with their creative process. And how much they love what they are doing.
Ok so commence flaying me alive here folks :)
BSG-38 Minnesotia
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Actually, I'm inclined to agree.
I'm one of those who believes that TV is inherently superior to movies. A movie is only about two hours, maybe three if you're Peter Jackson. The usual first order for a TV series is 13 episodes. Even if you end up getting cancelled, that's thirteen hours of time you get to spend with your characters (fifteen, if you get the double-sized pilot episode extra).
OTOH, movies are much higher-profile, suited to today's ADD-based pop culture. Joss' TV cred is golden, it's the publicity he needs, which means he needs movies. A few blockbusters later, no mere network will have the cojones to say "no" to him (and if they do, other networks will be eager to pick up anything he tosses them).
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It is really unfortunate that Joss if off Wonder Woman, because it could have been the recognition boost he needed. I know he has legion of Buffy,Angel,Firefly,Serenity fans in the verse. I myself am a browncoat, but I don't think he has the industry recognition that he truly deserves. Take for example Sam Rami, he also had a loyal fan base, but it wasn't untill he made Spiderman and became a box office champ that he finally got the recognition he deserved. I just think Wonder Woman would have been a good boost for Joss to show a lot more people just how talented this guy really is.
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
To be honest, I wasn't really commenting on Joss. Just making a funny
Personally, I'm dissapointed he won't be making the movie as I would have loved to have seen what he did with the character. Still, I have Goners to look forward to now. Bet Mia is way cooler than Wonder Woman!
You made me giggle, DTH.. went back and giggled just now.
I agree... I would have loved to have seen what Joss' genius could have done with WW. Mia however is now calling... I'm quite fascinated with this idea and character. Knowing Joss it'll blow my socks off!
That being said....
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Originally posted by BattlestarMinnesotia:
I hate to commit heresy in this room, but I'm gonna have to say this:
Joss's biggest success commercially was probably Buffy and the spin-offs. And personally, I think that Firefly was his best work. Better than the BDM I think.
On other words, episodic character driven TV is his best medium. Major motion pictures don't seem to really jibe with his talents. He's just not a Spielberg or Scorcese or Cameron.
Sure, The Movies are all sexy and glamorous and all, but considering how GOOD Fiefly is--especially compared to Alien IV--I really think TV is where he belongs, professionally and creatively.
When I listen to the BSG commentary podcast each week, I'm always struck by how much fun they seem to be having, how hard they are working, and how little the network seems to interfere with their creative process. And how much they love what they are doing.
Ok so commence flaying me alive here folks :)
BSG-38 Minnesotia
No flaying necessary.. we enjoy the fair exchange of opinions and ideas 'round here.
I don't disagree with you on any particular point... Joss' forte is the ongoing, long form of story telling. 'Course he's damn fine at the flash by, goes too fast movie makin' thing too. I think he'd get better at it too.. the more he makes. Let's hope that Goner's is the one that now makes his name big. It's the name recognition by many, big glad handing following of execs that we need for him to have in Hollywood that nets us the possibility of more.
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Oh, c'mon people! Toy Story? Hello? Joss got an oscar for that for crying out loud! I know he was part of a team, but still! The guy can write popular movies. Heck, the whole point of a script doctor is to make sure everything works as well as possible in as short a space as possible.
As for why he quit Wonder Woman, I have it on very bad authority that the studio is hoping to make a parody of the 70's show. After his bad experience with the Buffy movie I don't blame him for pulling out.
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Oh, c'mon people! Toy Story? Hello? Joss got an oscar for that for crying out loud! I know he was part of a team, but still! The guy can write popular movies. Heck, the whole point of a script doctor is to make sure everything works as well as possible in as short a space as possible.
I know, DTH.. I agree.. Toy Story is a masterpiece, genuinely. But I was referring to directing.. I want him to have that big chance to be a "big" director, you know, household name and all.
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After his bad experience with the Buffy movie I don't blame him for pulling out.
I don't blame him for pulling out, if that's what happened... I'm just sorry it happened. WW could have been a big hit for Joss and made him a name in Hollywood within the movie industry that the BDM didn't.. and I think we all could have benefited from that.. not least of all Joss.. who would have more free rein to do what he wants to do. Joss doing what he wants to do makes me happy.
'Course Mia may kick ass.. and leave everyone in the dust and make him the new "it" director! I can't wait to see Goners!
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*a creaking noise is heard from the basement, as a lead-lined lid is opened, and a voice, thin and ghostly, wafts up the stairs...*
"Who stole m' golden arm?"...
No, wait. Ummm, what I meant to say was, I always had more than a little doubt about the validity of Wonder Woman.
While I was happy that Joss had the opportunity to make a major motion picture -- and while I was certain that the characters and dialogue would have been excellent -- I doubted that the movie would do anything but lose money at the box office.
It appears to me that the industry and moviegoers are about tuckered out on comics-based films. Witness the spectacular failures of the latest Superman foray, the Fantastic 4, and the last installment of X-Men. "But like all true love, it withered on the vine..."
So, while I'm sad Joss couldn't make a ton of dough and earn some serious credibility on a big-budget project, I'm also thrilled that he didn't continue with a project that seemed doomed to failure. Wonder Woman?! How stereotypical of 1940's womanhood can you get? In order to bring her into the present, you'd have to reinvent her so thoroughly that she'd be a new character and no longer Wonder Woman (starting with 40's Miss America contest bathing suit).
As bad as this turn may seem for our favorite storyteller, I'm telling you that he -- and we -- got shot in the donkey with luck on this one...
Thankfully,
zoid
P.S.
God (a.k.a. Morena Baccarin) never closes a door without opening another one... Preferably, that door will be on SciFi, Sundays at 8 or 9, holding hands with Battlestar Galactica, and spawn theatrical releases based on the new TV series. That's my dream.
*Mollified, the Ghost of Firefly Past crawls back into its lonely, cold bed, and dreams of the Day of its Resurrection*
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ZOID!!
We missed you!
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