Joss won't be making 'Wonder Woman'
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UPDATED: Monday, February 19, 2007 07:53
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The only reason I would have gone was for the writing. Now? Not so much.
I'm not giving up hope of a sequel or a series. I am starting to think that the cast may have to play their characters' parents at this rate..
but I'm not the most patient person in the world. 
Now, if everyone can stop trying to call each other big dummies without coming right out and saying it this will be a much more pleasant thread.
Opinions are opinions and nothing more, conjecture is just guessing, nobody has a crystal ball, and we have taken a turn down the trousers of time. Nothing left to do but wait and see.
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Originally posted by Causal:
Look, everybody! O-1985 has a crystal ball, too!
no its called common sense. If a movie doestn do well in the box office, studios are less prone to hire you. I dont have a crystal ball, but you have a really lame sense of humor.
Jesus, O-1985, did you really think I was referring to the not-hiring thing? Give me a break. I was referring to the (obviously) erroneous notion that anyone can look into the future and predict how a movie is going to do (with the possible exception of Fantastic 4). Who knew Clerks would do so well? Or Brokeback Mountain? Or Star Wars for that matter? Hell, I'd have gone to see WW (still might), just to see what kind of treatment they give it.
But I'm sorry, I've forgotten that when you're 16 you know everything. My bad.
/snarky
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Can I just say - AMEN!
I think this is a good thing and here's why:
No matter how brilliant Joss is, as long as the studio kept micromanaging him the project was never going to work.
Plus now, he has time for those other projects, like say - A new season of Firefly, a Serenity sequel or some combination thereof ...
Please, Joss - if you read this site at all, make it happen my friend!
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As much as I would love to see a continuation of the 'verse, Joss losing out on the chance to make Wonder Woman - especially coming on the heels of the supposed failure of Serenity and the cancellation of Firefly and ANGEL - puts a serious damper on his career in the movies. He's trying to establish himself as a mainstream director and writer (rather than just a script-doctor, which is what he was already known for), but he keeps running into problems: his first film didn't sell nearly as well as he and the studio were hoping it would, and now he's lost out on the chance to catapult his career by bringing to life one of DC Comics' primary superheroes in 'Wonder Woman'. Although it's still possible that Universal COULD greenlight a Serenity sequel, the chances of it actually being successful are consderiably lower than they otherwise might have been had he had the opportunity to make a name for himself as a film director and writer with 'Wonder Woman'.
Also, from what I know of Joss, his calling himself a 'free man' is most likely an attempt to 'soften the blow' and help himself - and us - deal with the fact that the studio decided to cut him loose (which is definitely the case).
As great as Joss is, he really needs a mainstream success story as a director and writer to get his Hollywood film career back where it used to be (when he was a highly successful script doctor); here's hoping this 'Goners' project will be the 'magic ticket', 'cause if it's not, I'm not sure if Joss's career will be able to recover given the setbacks he's suffered already.
Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
There's no place I can be
Since I've found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me
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Originally posted by Operative1985:Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Look, everybody! O-1985 has a crystal ball, too!
no its called common sense. If a movie doestn do well in the box office, studios are less prone to hire you. I dont have a crystal ball, but you have a really lame sense of humor.
Jesus, O-1985, did you really think I was referring to the not-hiring thing? Give me a break. I was referring to the (obviously) erroneous notion that anyone can look into the future and predict how a movie is going to do (with the possible exception of Fantastic 4). Who knew Clerks would do so well? Or Brokeback Mountain? Or Star Wars for that matter? Hell, I'd have gone to see WW (still might), just to see what kind of treatment they give it.
But I'm sorry, I've forgotten that when you're 16 you know everything. My bad.
/snarky
haha im the 16 year old now? who responded with sarcasm when i was just being involved in the thread? that would be you. I didnt agree with you, but you dont see me being sarcastic and rude. All I was saying is that this is a good thing, because even as good as Joss is, i dont believe Wonder Woman is the project he needs to do right now. With him OFF the project, he wont be negated by it when it does sub par in the box office. Thats the last thing he needs. So get off my back and grow up.
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This isn't a setback for Joss, nor is it a springboard. It's simply another turn down the exiting adventure that is his career.
I'm sorry I disagree with you about this not being a setback for Joss.
Of course you do, because you're focusing on the negative. That's the problem. Not everything that happens to Joss and our BDHs is either going to help or hurt a sequel. Joss working on WW would not have impacted the probability of a sequel at all. Not one bit. Universal knows there is a fanbase out here for Serenity and they know that not a single one of us would be swayed by the outcome of WW's revenues. They also know that 90% of movie goers don't give a rats ass who directs a movie, they go for the content. Think more people would have gone to see Serenity if Joss wrote it and Spielburg was directing it? I don't.
WW would have zero impact on a sequel. Well that's not true, as someone stated earlier, the time Joss would have had to dedicate to WW would have all but eliminated the possability of a sequel.
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I just believe that the chances he has to work that magic with the 'Verse are slimmer now.
They were slim to begin with. I understand the desire to keep holding the torch, but come on. Do you honestly think that everything that happens in the lives and careers of those associated with this project affects a Serenity sequel that greatly? Do you honestly think Nathan being in Lost and White Noise 2, or Jewel being in The Tribe, or Gina's projects and pregnancy, or Adam's TV appearances (need I go on?) helped the chances of a sequel? No, they didn't. All it means is that they've found work, and God bless them for that.
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Originally posted by Operative1985:
haha im the 16 year old now?
Well, I guess I just assumed that the "98% of teens have smoked pot..." line in your sig actually meant something. But I suppose that it could always be the case that you're a creepy forty-five year old in a sweat-stained wife-beater who likes pretending to be a teenager so he can talk to teenage girls. Who knows, really? That's the wonder of the internet.
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who responded with sarcasm when i was just being involved in the thread?
Actually, if you'll look carefully, only the second half of that post was meant sarcastically, and that just barely. If my memory of my own teenage years serves me correctly, I also labored under the delusion that I knew it all--so really, the only sarcastic thing in there was the apology. Perhaps your sarcasm detector needs a tune-up? Next time I'll make sure to use [ sarcasm ] and [ /sarcasm ] to insure that there's no confusion.
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I didnt agree with you, but you dont see me being sarcastic and rude...get off my back and grow up.
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.
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All I was saying is that this is a good thing, because even as good as Joss is, i dont believe Wonder Woman is the project he needs to do right now. With him OFF the project, he wont be negated by it when it does sub par in the box office. [ emphasis added ]
And now, after a long and pointless diversion we return to the point that I was originally trying to make. And after two failed attempts to make you understand, I've grown weary of trying to say this artfully, so here we go with language even you will be sure to understand: there is no way for you to know how the Wonderwoman movie is going to do at the box office. And before you object--no, there really isn't. Wait, wait--nope. And given that it's the case that none of us (yourself included) can perfectly predict future box-office performance, none of us (yourself included) can really know whether or not the project would help or hurt Joss Whedon's value to movie studios. [ sarcasm ] So gee, I'm not really sure it's the open-and-shut case that you seem to think it is. [ /sarcasm ]
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Hey Baby!
I just wanted to jump in and say you are 100% right. How many of us who are posting here really understand this movie/TV Business? I mean....come on? They made Serenity! AFTER a CANCELED TV SHOW!
The point is we just don't know anything. We will see what 2007 holds.
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Casual, i understood your point. its the way you started by mocking me. I could care less if you dont agree with my opinion. I believe the movie would do poorly, Im allowed to predict/guess, that doesnt mean its fact or that i deserve to be mocked by you. Like i said, grow up. Im done replying to you, your very unpleasant.
But let me apologize from just voicing my opinion, apparently thats not allowed on this board.
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i know this is a stupid question, but what is this "GONERS" project?
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