No, THIS is what going crazy must feel like.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 26, 2026 18:21
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Rap,
You did kind of evade the question. How is it you keep flogging stuff that's untrue? Not just some of the time, but ALL the time. Who took your common sense from you?
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rue- just because they were 'big stories' doesn't mean they were true. There's all manner of trumped up fairy tales by the media which , after some careful examination, turn out to be nothing remotely like what the initial story was portrayed.
Oh, you mean like the Kuwaiti 'incubator' story, "mushroom clouds", liquid bombs, terror plots that evaporate on the slightest investigation, saddams WMDs, tapes from "Al Qeada" featuring what must be albino arabs and/or Osamas who must have had radical plastic surgery, Obama's so-called muslim edcuation, and all the other bullshit shovelled from the rightwingnuts ?
Yeah, all manner of fairy tales, no doubt.
Dude, once a source has so completely blown it's credibility, why believe anything further they try to feed you ?
I've yet to see a single ounce of evidence, for example, linking even OBL to 9-11, in the rush to battle, too many folk stopped asking the right questions - and now that it's too late, the answers we're getting suck.
Or when pressed for evidence, that whole veil of secrecy thing again.
It's bullshit, and the sooner folks realize that, the sooner this insanity will stop.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Auraptor- I'm really busy right now. I'll get with you later.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Oh, you mean like the Kuwaiti 'incubator' story, "mushroom clouds", liquid bombs, terror plots that evaporate on the slightest investigation, saddams WMDs, tapes from "Al Qeada" featuring what must be albino arabs and/or Osamas who must have had radical plastic surgery, Obama's so-called muslim edcuation, and all the other bullshit shovelled from the rightwingnuts ?
Yeah, all manner of fairy tales, no doubt.
Dude, once a source has so completely blown it's credibility, why believe anything further they try to feed you ?
I've yet to see a single ounce of evidence, for example, linking even OBL to 9-11, in the rush to battle, too many folk stopped asking the right questions - and now that it's too late, the answers we're getting suck.
Or when pressed for evidence, that whole veil of secrecy thing again.
It's bullshit, and the sooner folks realize that, the sooner this insanity will stop.
-Frem
So, because the incubator story was likely exaggerated, Iraq didn't invade Kuwait and there were zero attrocities committed by Saddam's armies? Wow.
Terrorist have vowed to nuke Israel and the West. You'd ignore their threats.....why ? All that was said is that we should act BEFORE there are mushroom clouds. Seems damn reasonable. I know for a fact you'd be the 1st one asking why nothing was done BEFORE the nukes went off, should it ever come to that.
You fail to see any connection between al Qaeda and 9/11?
You sir, are a moron.
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Quote:If we include this do I get to say the US funded terrorism against the UK because a large amount of IRA funding came from US Citizens?
Originally posted by Razza:
I believe Cartoon was including private donations in his statement as well as the government sponsored assistance included in your citations numbers. Does this mean you only beleive government funded assistance is valid assistance?
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Rap,
"All that was said is that we should act BEFORE there are mushroom clouds."
The UN WAS acting - and it was within a few weeks of finding a WMD-free Iraq. Under those conditions, why did the US invade?
As to Iraq and 9/11 - please cite some evidence.
But you still didn't answer my question. It's like you have no existence, no thoughts, no responses beyond talking points. I'd say you were a Rovian wet-dream, made corporeal. Or, more accurately, incorporated.
So, why do you persist in dumping the bs so completely and consistently? How'd you get that way?
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Hey Cit....
If America wanted to really throw its millitary weight around, the Middle East would look like Superman's Fortress of Solitude by now.
Sand + Nukes = Glass.
If this were a move of America really trying to say to the world that we don't give a shit what you think and we're going to do what we want, than that's how it would have gone down. Surely Mecca would have been destroyed for what happened to the Twin Towers.
If they wanted to convince me that this is a "war" that we really had any intention of winning from the start, we would be doing something about keeping more Muslims from entering our country every day, but we don't do that either.
This "war" is simply a manuver to funnel more tax dollars into the Federation. It is also meant as a means to spy on everyone who lives here and to enforce the Real ID. It will ultimately make America look so horrible in the eyes of the world that after we fail miserably we will end up kneeling before our new one world government and be absorbed by them. In the end, we will have no more allies to turn to and we will have no choice but to become part of the New World Order because our economies are so tied up with each other and China. Canada, Mexico and USA will all have the same currency like the Euro.
America has been completely immasculated. The America we knew and grew up with is no more. We're full of politicians, and lawyers, and beurocrats and diplomats and pussies with no balls who consistantly pass the buck and sidestep important issues while they sell us out to the higest bidder behind our backs. It's a runaway government and I have no disillusions why the rest of the world hates us. Believe me when I say that not every American believes all of the bullshit and that there are those of us who should not be lumped in with that hatered for America and Americans.
Realize that this isn't just America. It's easy to think so when we're at the helm of such a catastropy, but it is your government as well. It's any government who has banned smoking from thier bars and resturants. It's any government who lets the Federal Reserve print thier money. We're all part of a greater whole that isn't going to spend forever behind the scenes. Forces are coming together and as they grow more powerful they will no longer need to hide in the shadows manipulating things. They're all working together, even when it seems like one of them is doing what the others don't want. (See: America's invasion of the Middle East).
You just keep watching and see how bad this is going to turn out and how bad America looks in the end. Then we'll see how long it takes for us to bow down and take our seat at the UN. And, it won't be the head seat of the table either.
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This I agree with: "while they sell us out to the higest bidder behind our backs".
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Quote:Do you really think we'll be diverted by this pathetic straw man? Silly man!
So, because the incubator story was likely exaggerated, Iraq didn't invade Kuwait and there were zero attrocities committed by Saddam's armies?
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Again, show me one whit, one single ounce of proof from any confirmed, reputable source.
None has been forthcoming, none will be forthcoming.
I've been asking that question since it happened, and lemme repeat now what I said then.
"Sure, we want some heads for this, but I want the RIGHT heads, and for that we must have an actual investigation and some real, tangible evidence of who the responsible parties were."
You gonna take the word of the folks who lied about everydamnthing else for granted when they claim OBL or Al Qeade was behind 9-11 ?
Why ?
Show me evidence, ANY evidence worth a damn.
That question got buried in the rush to war, and it's past time to dig it back out and start asking it.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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