Why am I hurting myself?
POSTED BY: Bringitback
UPDATED: Sunday, February 4, 2007 03:37
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Browncoats,
This is my first post on the board, although I have come to this site numerous times, desperate for updates.
I live in Australia and found Firefly after I watched Serenity mid 2006.
The show is amazing. Simply amazing. I've had to stop watching it because it hurts me too much to know that so many stories are going untold.
I know I'm just rehashing the same questions asked over and over on these boards but I would really appreciate if someone humored me and answered my questions.
Thanks in advance
1. The REAL possibility of anything? TV/Movie, I don't care. I just want to see them again.
2. Why o Why did Joss kill off both Shepherd AND Wash? I can almost understand Wash but why Book? How can you kill off a character you built up to have such an interesting story?
3. As someone who studied both Public Relations and Marketing.. I know first hand about the need for effective advertising and promotion. Joss's main point after the cancellation was that "they didnt understand us." For the sake of argument, can somebody give me one sentence on how you would sell this show to your average joe?
Thanks again...
Long live the Browncoats
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The REAL possibility of anything?
up in the air, we don't know nuthin' although they ARE making an MMO set in the 'verse
Why o Why did Joss kill off both Shepherd AND Wash? I can almost understand Wash but why Book? How can you kill off a character you built up to have such an interesting story?
noone but his Royal Jossness knows
As someone who studied both Public Relations and Marketing.. I know first hand about the need for effective advertising and promotion. Joss's main point after the cancellation was that "they didnt understand us." For the sake of argument, can somebody give me one sentence on how you would sell this show to your average joe?
I'm tapped *points to the next poster* Your turn!
Why is the rum always gone?
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Welcome to our bit of the 'verse, Bringitback!
Please let me offer you a drink. 
As to the questions...
1.) Only Joss knows and he plays thing very close to the chest. What we do know is more graphic novels from Dark Horse written by Da Man. But... to get more we gotta let 'em (the evil beancounters in the corporate entertainment world) know we're here and we got spending loot. So go buy stuff! 
2.) For Wash, Joss said it was to unsettle the audience so that they would (quite rightly) think that any of the crew could be next.
For Book...my take it there were only two people that he could have killed that was liked/respected/cared for that killing him/her would unite the entire crew (including Jayne, who's never been much of a joiner): Book or Kaylee. Book's death was needed to 1.) unite the crew to a single cause and 2.) push Mal into literally fighting another war and helping him find his belief again. Not in God per se, bit in something.
3.) Maverick in space plus the best character developement and dialogue ever.
Welcome again! Look foward to see ya 'round. And to let ya know, there's several folks here from your end of the planet.
*does the happy new recruit dance*
*******
RMMC
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Originally posted by Bringitback:
Browncoats,
This is my first post on the board, although I have come to this site numerous times, desperate for updates.
I live in Australia and found Firefly after I watched Serenity mid 2006.
The show is amazing. Simply amazing. I've had to stop watching it because it hurts me too much to know that so many stories are going untold...
Long live the Browncoats
Nice post , BringItBack !
Our lovely , fine folk of the 'Verse WILL be back , one way or another...We're building up to critical mass every day , and every time someone like you comes along , we're that much closer...
Sooner or later , you'll have to have a Firefly " fix " , and what will ease you through the pain is that you'll share the joy of Firefly discovery with someone else...
About 2 months ago , I shared the boxset with someone...It went unwatched for about 6 weeks...But today I saw this person again...Bingo , the BIG payoff !
She said , " We LOVE it ! " Of course I said ,
" I KNEW that you would ! " Then she said ,
" It's kind of addictive ! " , and I said ,
" Yes it is ! " . I think she said that they've got maybe 3 episodes that they need to watch , still...Then she commented about the quality of the writing , and the characters , and the acting , etc...How multi-layered and NUANCED this show is...
Before Christmas , she'd told me that she thought she might get the show for her boyfriend , because he and I have similar tastes , but he'd told her that he thought they'd watch " Serenity " first , and I said ,
" OH , NOooooo ! , You CAN'T do THAT ! "
I insisted that they start the boxset , so I gave them a ' loaner ' set , and stealthily waited for the sereni-bomb to go off...The rest , as they say , is history...Looks like 2 new Browncoats are being born...Each one must teach 1...or 10...Just do your little bit , we're getting CLOSER every day...Just think of it like this...The network tried to kill us , while we were still strong...We CHOKED 'em with their own words...Before 3 years had elapsed , our BDHeroes were back , in a BDMovie , and we WILL do it AGAIN...
Keep the Faith . Share the Love . Feel the Joy !
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Thanks RMMC.
I have brought both the DVD series and the DVD film so I've done my part...for now.
Funny story, when I was buying 'Serenity' the clerk goes to his mate "Another Serenity! I think I may have to see this film." Which made me happy.
I agree with your thoughts on Book's death motivating Mal and the crew but I'm deeply dissapointed that 'IF' the show/movie comes back that he can't be around to give the big "Ok, this is my history." speech.
As for the future of the show. I read earlier that Joss will only do it if confronted by a different TV network. He refuses to work with Fox again.
The problem the browncoats have had is not fox (even though fox are...well..fox) but finding a new home for the show.
If we can't even get a sequel to a movie that won numerous awards and dominates DVD sales, why would any new TV network have a shot at us?
Thanks for the drink
*lifts glass*
To Firefly!
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*lifts glass*
To Firefly!
*raises glass as well and drinks with Bringitback*
Yes to Firefly.. again may it fly!
Welcome to our corner of the 'Verse Bringitback. We're glad you're here.
We areapproaching critical mass, Bringitback.. if we continue to do our part and recruit and spread the Firefly love, they'll give a mass of us a sequel... or better yet renew the show on the SciFi channel.
There is also the good news about the SG-1 direct to DVD movies and the same with Babylon 5. This is very encouraging to me. There are other ways out there to give us our beloved 'Verse.As to Book and Wash...particularly Book.. both Ron and Alan have said that Joss has said they'll be back if the story continues. I have faith in Joss... he'll know what to do with our shiny crew.
All the cast is still under contract to Universal til September of this year. We still have time to make a difference.
I give new folks virtual browncoats as part of a traditional greeting so I reckon it's your turn.
*hands Bringitback a browncoat from the storeroom*
Make yourself to home, there should be more drinks and good eats to come.
Go to www.whitenoisethelight.net for more info!
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Joss said on the Serenity commentary that he killed them off to make people believe that the characters could die. He didnt want people thinking the characters were invincible. He said it made the stakes real.
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'Joss said on the Serenity commentary that he killed them off to make people believe that the characters could die. He didnt want people thinking the characters were invincible. He said it made the stakes real.'
I have no qualms at all with that. I just fear he killed off one of his most interesting and mysterious future story lines.
Wash and Book = my favourite bloody characters after Mal.
So believe me...when I was watching, the feeling of mortality was well and truly alive.
The thing that pisses me off the most about our entire situation... Do we know if anyone has approached fox about the rights? How long do they have those rights?
Someone said, that the Contracts with Universal end in September... FFF needs to do something huge well before this deadline
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Originally posted by Bringitback:
'Joss said on the Serenity commentary that he killed them off to make people believe that the characters could die. He didnt want people thinking the characters were invincible. He said it made the stakes real.'
I have no qualms at all with that. I just fear he killed off one of his most interesting and mysterious future story lines.
Wash and Book = my favourite bloody characters after Mal.
So believe me...when I was watching, the feeling of mortality was well and truly alive.
The thing that pisses me off the most about our entire situation... Do we know if anyone has approached fox about the rights? How long do they have those rights?
Someone said, that the Contracts with Universal end in September... FFF needs to do something huge well before this deadline
I believe Fox let Joss have the rights to the tv show, because they gave him permission to try and sell it to another network. but when they made the movie universal obviously got the rights. so i dont know.
"I already know you will not see reason" - The Operative
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