I HATE AMERICA!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:07 AM

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Wanna have that old "What if we had jets in WWII" discussion?

Umm, but we DID, they just sucked too bad to use in combat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-59_Airacomet

And maybe if the press hadn't covered for an administration deliberately and intentionally provoking an attack on pearl harbor, we wouldn't have been involved.

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408

As far as secrecy goes, our history of it's use has been idiotic at best, coverups of incompetence, stupidity, fraud and waste, with self-muzzling of the press under the guise of "National Security" - it amounts to a de-facto disenfranchisement of the american people AND their elected reps, because without factual, accurate information, how can decisions be made regarding such things ?

And don't even get me started on propaganda, given the fate of Jeff Gannon and Talon News Service, or the MILLIONS of my tax dollars poured into military propaganda efforts to lie to us and get us to shovel even more money into the black pit of the DoD budget.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lincoln_Group

Don't play that "National Security" bullshit on me, it was bullshit when Lincoln used it, and it's bullshit now.

You rightwingnuts are just pissed because THIS TIME, the lies that led us into a futile war were handily shredded by a vigilant press IN SPITE of propaganda efforts and attempts to muzzle the media.

Cause now the "media" isn't just Hearst and Murdoch and easily-bought big boys, thanks to the internet the "media" is all of us, any one of us - and while fact checking your info is more important than ever, anyone reasonably competent can poke holes in government lies now.

No war we've been involved in since the revolution has begun with anything but lies, and this one is no damned different.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:48 AM

The idea that the New York times would be reporting on developing of Nuclear Weapons is merely the symptom of a mind that can't quite grasp reality.

There's such a thing as state secrets you know. Military journalism of today is not much different to what it was during the Second World War, save for the technology of the time. Newspapers carried up to date information on battles, how do people think they got that information, ESP? But if you haven't got video cameras and TV's having videoed TV reports is a little bit on the hard side.

So, are the latest military technologies in the New York times? What are they? Oh that's right, we don't know, because they're secret. Kinda like the Manhatten project was.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

THOLO

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tholo:

if you dont love your country the get out. be happy and move on. but the problem is you dont want to you would rather say and bad mouth it.

constuctive criticism is part of maintaining a free republic; you admit yourself that we're passed that point

there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

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we will always have our differances, thats what we are about, but we should stand united in our country, that is what makes up mighty.

if you love your country, protect it; quit protecting the system which is covertly destroying out nationality. if you think these international elitists care about american sovereignty and rights(under God), then youre mistaken.. and have overlooked the obvious push (NAFTA/UN/G8 etc)towards a global government

i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba, dont point it at bush
or think that he came up with the idea, the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out and i think we should answer to them.

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before 9/11, we have differances in the election and such, but right after 9/11, we put that aside and came together like we have always done. if you dont want to stand with us they go away, but dont stand in our home field and cuss us. that wont work, people can turn on you and will.

how prophetic is that.. 9.11 was engineered for that very purpose; to usher in the New World Order, and the purging of the old world

911 was to see if we would divide, but we didnt and we will not, no matter how many times the enemy thinks they can get us too. like i said we will have differances, but when you dont love your country, go.

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think of it like a high school football game, whos side are you on?? dont be a visitor and sit in the home stands and shout for the other team! hehe not excpet the response you are going to get.

youre either with the 'new' America, or your with the terrorists; that would explain the ongoing construction of FEMA concentration camps across America, in the event of 'the big one', or series of 'big ones', permantly ceasing our elected government, and ushering in the global police state that we're supposed to love out of patriotism

heheh you listen to coast to coast dont you, hahha

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so back to my first reply, GET OUT!!! go live in any other country you think you might be happy in!

GoodBye
God Bless the USA

you mean god bless Lucifer? ive got to leave, but take a look at our own capitol, which was literally designed around occult symbols(the washington obelisk, pentagram city layout etc)

occult you like "united we stand", in god we trust, life libery and the pursuit of happeness, oh come on so now the govt is built by devil worrishipers?? i take it you dont like the country you live in either? but oh how nice that you can go to whatever church you want, listen to whatever you want, read whatever you want, watch whatever you want, drive where ever you want without papers into each state, there are no slaves, (which is another story), no guard towers in you downtown area, no police busting in your door for NO reason (i know they do with cause and 99% they were right, drugs and etc. but not just cause they feel like it to take you family from you, your gold, NAZI's did that who loved the occult by the way)sounds like we have a really bad country, maybe hillary clinton will fix all that for you. maybe we need to pull out of iraq and then we can have guard towers downtown, that must be what everybody wants. flatten DC and then we can put up a mosk(sp, slow fingers) would that make you all america haters happy, i bet it would. well i will fight for what i have now and deal with you wackos on a 1 on 1. cause america brings out the best in me and i will do my best to defend her as long as i live.

God Bless America

Keep Flying!!

ANTIMASON

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:04 AM

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posted by Tholo-
i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba, dont point it at bush
or think that he came up with the idea, the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out and i think we should answer to them.

dont misunderstand me, politics is completely unnatural and corrupt, so ill attribute blame liberally, my criteria is ones worldview, and whether theyre even trustworthy; the sad part is that most are faux-religious or secular humanist globalists, and you can hardly trust any of them.

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there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

true.. but it was just a tag line. i realize "hate" is pretty strong, but i doubt anyone here hates America(n)s, or any other nationality for that matter; it was probably just intented to raise the blood-pressure of the establishment goosesteppers around here

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i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba,

i never claimed otherwise

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dont point it at bush or think that he came up with the idea,

i do talk about Clinton, but hes not president anymore... and if (God help us) Hilary or McCain or some other globalist is elected, ill expose them aswell; but as for now, its Bush, and he was given a specific phase of the NWO agenda to complete, and ill oppose it for what it is, just as people have done with every previous administration or congress with deceitful alterior motives

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the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out

its a little late.. this is what your republican president said in 1991

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"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders."

who were its founders, and what was their vision?? hmm... either way Bush cemented the bond a year later in an address to the UN saying

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"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will HENCEFORTH PLEDGE THEIR ALLEGIENCE."

will you tell me the constitution is still relevant among these people?

ww1 brought the league of nations, ww2 the UN, ww3 a global government; it just takes a little insight and wisdom to see the forest through the trees here

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occult you like "united we stand", in god we trust, life libery and the pursuit of happeness, oh come on so now the govt is built by devil worrishipers??

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2357448098911229950&q=nwo+free
masonry&hl=en
watch this video, and tell me thats a christian influence. we cant even get the complete ten commandments posted on government property

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i take it you dont like the country you live in either? but oh how nice that you can go to whatever church you want, listen to whatever you want, read whatever you want, watch whatever you want, drive where ever you want without papers into each state, there are no slaves, no guard towers in you downtown area, no police busting in your door for NO reason

those are privelages merely granted to you for the time being.. those rights are not God granted. no populace ever asked to be oppressed, it happened either behind their backs or with their unwitting consent; so freedom requires vigilance. but go on.. burry your head in the sand and see where we're at 5-10 yrs from now

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sounds like we have a really bad country, maybe hillary clinton will fix all that for you.

except shes a globalist shill aswell; look i actually recognize the corruption of both parties, which may still evade you, in light of your wrongly charachterized assumption about me

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:

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there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

true.. but it was just a tag line. i realize "hate" is pretty strong, but i doubt anyone here hates America(n)s, or any other nationality for that matter; it was probably just intented to raise the blood-pressure of the establishment goosesteppers around here

You got it, Antimason, I used it to flush out the birds of ignorance so we could all see the crap fall from the sky

Got hit...EWWWWue Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
the analogies were entirely accurate, (if not right on the mark),
...one doesn't have to surmise how the press may have acted indiscretely 65 years ago (if their liberties hadn't been curtailed at that time), when they are consistently doing so in the present.

Good effort at trying to misdirect everyone, though.

We have such instant access to info now compared to 65 years ago, that your analogy is obtuse, at best.
*WARNING: IMMINENT AD-HOMINEM ATTACK!*
Cartoon, you are an abject moron. A flunkie for the terrorist agenda without even knowing it. You seek to legitimize illegal activities under the guise of necessary 'little inconveniances', and our enemies laugh with contentment knowing you and those like you do their work for them. You are a toadie for fascism, you bloated, supersticious biped. You make me sick, get out of my sight!

Oh, that's right...I can't actually see you...

...well..okay, stay where you are, just don't post a picture of yourself, or I may

Sick of God-fearing NeoCon lackey scum Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:16 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

So, are the latest military technologies in the New York times? What are they? Oh that's right, we don't know, because they're secret. Kinda like the Manhattan project was.

Thanks for the back-up, dude. Right now I am too flustered for the capacity of rational thought...anger makes me temporarily lose about 50 IQ points, and has me fighting on Cartoon's level...

...which I guess makes it more fair for HIM....

Chrisisall

CARTOON

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
We have such instant access to info now compared to 65 years ago, that your analogy is obtuse, at best.

Like I said, certain folks can't see the trees for the forest.

Keep telling yourself whatever it takes for you to make sense of your posts.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Cartoon, you are an abject moron. A flunkie for the terrorist agenda without even knowing it. You seek to legitimize illegal activities under the guise of necessary 'little inconveniances', and our enemies laugh with contentment knowing you and those like you do their work for them. You are a toadie for fascism, you bloated, supersticious biped. You make me sick, get out of my sight!

Oh, that's right...I can't actually see you......well..okay, stay where you are, just don't post a picture of yourself, or I may Sick of God-fearing NeoCon lackey scum Chrisisall

Oh, and BTW, nice reply. Very civil and well-thought, as usual. I owe you my sincerest gratitude for demonstrating more about your side of the debate than I ever could've with anything I could've said. Perhaps I'll have it engraved on a plaque to hang on my wall. It says so much about the mind from which it sprang. Now, I know I'm doing a good job. Thank you again.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:39 PM

Have you ever seen how smug and self satisfied serial killers can be, especially when winding up the good guys?

See above, it's a lot like that.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:

Oh, and BTW, nice reply. Very civil and well-thought, as usual.

Do I detect sarcasm from the keys of a clown that can't see the trees for the pile of s**t that he's shoveling?
Just keep enjoying the blood that flows from the bodies of our kids to keep the kings on top of the mountain, you fool.

( Damn...I may have been too poetical there...he's gonna have a problem with the imagery...he'll probably go into a rant about how we don't have 'kings' in this country...Note to self: keep it literal when dealing with those of limited neural activity

)

Wordy Chrisisall

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