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POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:35
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Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:25 PM

oh but they're so witty, how will I ever resist

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:38 PM

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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
oh but they're so witty, how will I ever resist

Well, if you'd like a slightly more engaging pursuit that doesn't harm one's grey matter quite so much, allow me to demonstrate:




More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
The lack of plastic would hurt us as a society far more than a lack of fuel, in all honesty.



don't know about more than lack of fuel, but it is important, that's why recycling needs to be much more efficient and more universal...

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:42 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Well, if you'd like a slightly more engaging pursuit that doesn't harm one's grey matter quite so much, allow me to demonstrate:




ooh, that does look like more fun, and you get much more sense out of the wall...

*practices*


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Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:48 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The Guardian reports that the polar ice caps are melting, but in reality the Antarctic ice cap is actually growing.


So the northern cap is melting, sending more moisture into the atmo where it comes down as snow in Antactica...and a global warming trend, wholely natural or not, will cause a minor ice age...seems to be on track with what I've been saying for a while now...parka companies, invest in parka companies.

Seems fine on the exterior, right? Lose ice at the top and gain it at the bottom- sea level remains constant, right? Then why is sea level increasing at other points on Earth? Know why Finn? No, you don't, but there are theories. Lots. The only facts are what's happening- what's measureable- right now. We're in for a shake up, and middle eastern oil won't last forever, IMO not through the new ice age we'll be dealing with. You and I might even see it begin...do you ski?

Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:


So the short answer is yes, the cheap oil is running out, that's not the same as saying that all the oil is running out.


Exactly.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You and I might even see it begin...do you ski?

Bring it on, buddy. Bring It On. I just bought a new wool overcoat and a clovis point spear; I’m ready for the ice age.

The sea level rise is usually not attributed to melting ice, though. It’s a generally seen as a result of thermal expansion.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:16 PM


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Bring it on, buddy. Bring It On. I just bought a new wool overcoat and a clovis point spear; I’m ready for the ice age.


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The sea level rise is usually not attributed to melting ice, though. It’s a generally seen as a result of thermal expansion.


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For a global mean 3.0°C (1.5°C, 4.5°C) temperature rise by 2050 (and with the spatial distribution predicted by three climate models), we estimate the component of sea level rise that is caused by thermal expansion to be about 0.2 to 0.3 m (0.1 m, 0.4 m) by 2050.


Uhhhh, so....more water, basically...

Roads Scholar Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:19 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Uhhhh, so....more water, basically...

I like water. I feel that it enhances the natural flavor of my tea.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, January 27, 2007 5:24 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

The sea level rise is usually not attributed to melting ice, though. It’s a generally seen as a result of thermal expansion.



I've always heard it attributed to melting ice, not just polar ice caps, glaciers too, but always connected to the water transfering from storage in ice to the sea.

I wouldn't have thought expansion would have that much effect, but I don't know that much about it, I'd be interested to see some links to stuff on that.

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For a global mean 3.0°C (1.5°C, 4.5°C) temperature rise by 2050 (and with the spatial distribution predicted by three climate models), we estimate the component of sea level rise that is caused by thermal expansion to be about 0.2 to 0.3 m (0.1 m, 0.4 m) by 2050.
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hmmm, ok, that's quite a lot, I'm going to look for figures for ice melting...


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