I HATE AMERICA!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:35
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Quote:You too, huh? Reading IS a chore for some folk. No, I don't hate America...but I got something recently, and want to spread the sunshine.
Originally posted by Skywalken:
So Chrisisall hates America.
Here:
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Well, see.. I love America - I just don't think the country we live in qualifies as "America" anymore.
North America, maybe, but the "America" of visionary dreams, innovation and freedoms ?
Not hardly.
Not sure which I hate more, what we have become, or the notion of what we COULD be, and aren't.
-Frem
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Quote:Frem, I don't think America was EVER the faultless vision we all put up on that pedestal when we were younger. Just think how our politicians ignored stories of atrcities at the beginning of WWII...shouldn't we have jumped in sooner?
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Not sure which I hate more, what we have become, or the notion of what we COULD be, and aren't.
It's like in Buffy, Angel and Firefly; the threats from without AND within will always be there, ready to win if we let them. And being imperfect ourselves, we sometimes get led down the wrong path.
But we gotta keep fighting the good fight when we can.
I wanna slay the dragon Chrisisall
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Bush caused this double post!
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Chris........I apologize for assuming you were a Brit ( some words spelled as they do such as defence, etc )...OK so just substitute Major Network News for the BBC, and NY & LA Times for tabloid rags.
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Quote:Have faith, my friend. The good peeps in this world have always outnumbered those choosing the ways that harm others...it's just that THEY have a bigger stick.
Originally posted by Dayve:
I hope we all live to see the end of this current nightmare.
We must be the termites Chrisisall
(That sounded off even to me, the King of Strange Analogies
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Not sure which I hate more, what we have become, or the notion of what we COULD be, and aren't.
That was nicely said.
In a similar vein, as a non-American I'd say the biggest reason for people outside of America to hate it is because of what America claims to be, but isn't. And this perceived hypocrisy and arrogance is something that goes beyond any administration (although it's influenced by it, strongly so in the case of Bush), it's the absolute belief by many Americans that these claims are true even if refuted by reality, and this is the attitude that the media broadcasts to the outside world.
Even when there is a discussion of all the things that are wrong, there's still this attitude of "As crap as we may be, we're still better than any other country by default. God loves America." that isn't very appealling to non-Americans.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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Quote:Hey, no biggie there (I do a mean UK accent, though), just that I don't actually hate America is the point. We're always gonna be on the brink of some madness or other, but being aware of what's happening is key. To deny an infection is to get sicker in many cases.
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Chris........I apologize for assuming you were a Brit
Again with the analogy Chrisisall
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Quote:Well, we are not better than Holland or England or Australia or Canada or New Zealand or Ireland or Spain or Italy or France....wait...maybe better than France...
Originally posted by Khyron:
Even when there is a discussion of all the things that are wrong, there's still this attitude of "As crap as we may be, we're still better than any other country by default. God loves America." that isn't very appealling to the outside world.
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
....wait...maybe better than France...
That's something that Americans and most of the rest of the world can agree on.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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